# "Automatic" Changes Inside Quote Boxes **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 30, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070 "2015-11-30T23:12:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/1 "2015-11-30T23:12:14Z")
See [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18899931#post18899931) and the post it quoted. DSeid (the poster I was quoting) had a numbered list in his post with 5 items in the list. I wanted to address my comments to only Items 3-5 of his list, so I deleted the first two. But since the numbering was done by the board software formatting function and not manually, the list was now numbered 1-3, with the old #3 becoming #1, and so on. ISTM that the only ways to deal with this are to either quote a bunch of extraneous material or to manually recreate the list numbering. I don’t think there was any harm done in this case. But I understand in general the idea is to keep anything in a quote box sancrosanct. Is there an officially approved method of dealing with this type of situation? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/2 "2015-11-30T23:34:43Z")
I was hoping that you could just use the obvious, and change [noparse][ol] into [list=3][/noparse], but that didn’t work: [list=3][li]This should be number 3[/li][li]And this number 4[/li][/ol] I guess you could always replace [noparse][ol] with just [ul][/noparse], so that you’d get an unordered list: [list][li]This should be number 3[/li][li]And this number 4[/li][/ul] Or, yes, manually edit the list, even though it will make it look dumb if an item takes up more than one line. 1. This is a multiline long third item that is quite tertiary to the point that I am making that probably should address a sadly departed poster due to her fondness of lists that contain at least a trio of members. It should also probably contain three lines on my screen so that it will be long enough for people with higher resolutions or a lower zoom level. Maybe even four lines, just to be sure. 2. And here’s a shorter fourth item. [list=1][li]This is a multiline long third item that is quite tertiary to the point that I am making that probably should address a sadly departed poster due to her fondness of lists that contain at least a trio of members. It should also probably contain three lines on my screen so that it will be long enough for people with higher resolutions or a lower zoom level. Maybe even four lines, just to be sure.[/li] [li]And here’s a shorter fourth item.[/ol][/li] Note that the above contains a bug, BTW. I did type a space between just and [noparse][list][/noparse]. I could probably have fixed it, but I chose not to. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/3 "2015-11-30T23:35:48Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I don’t think there was any harm done in this case. But I understand in general the idea is to keep anything in a quote box sancrosanct. Is there an officially approved method of dealing with this type of situation? Huh. I tried changing LIST=1 to LIST=3. That had no effect. Same result as you got. I guess you could delete the text after the first two numbers and replace them with “…” or “not addressed” or something like that. I should think that would be OK. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/4 "2015-12-01T01:50:56Z")
I had no issue with the numbers within my quotebox being changed but would endorse the “…” solution myself as being most proper in case anyone ever would care. Funny enough I don’t usually bother with the LIST function and just manually make a list (which would have created no issue for you) … I only did under the peer influence of your formatting in the post I was responding to! 🙂 I am so easily influenced … ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/5 "2015-12-02T01:38:23Z")
If the left out numbers are short, I agree that the “…” solution is good. But it could get unwieldy if it gets too far down. And, in case my small text wasn’t clear, I left in the bug rather than working around it, just to show it off. the [noparse][noparse][/noparse] tag seems to have trouble with a bracket preceded by a space–probably because there’s some algorithm that removes spaces before certain tags that doens’t get shut off when [noparse][noparse][/noparse] is used. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/6 "2015-12-02T15:10:54Z")
Damn. I thought this thread would be about how the hell **Chronos** gets “quoth” in his quote boxes. Assuming he doesn’t do each of them by hand. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/7 "2015-12-02T15:27:49Z")
He does each of them by hand. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/8 "2015-12-03T16:36:35Z")
> [@fotheringay-phipps](#): > > istm that the only ways to deal with this are to either quote a bunch of extraneous material or to manually recreate the list numbering. > > I don’t think there was any harm done in this case. But i understand in general the idea is to keep anything in a quote box sancrosanct. Is there an officially approved method of dealing with this type of situation? another problem with quoting. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/9 "2015-12-03T16:39:33Z")
As you can see from my previous post, the anti-caps-lock-abuse function messes with quotes in an undesirable way. I quoted a previous poster’s mixed-case text, then added a few words of my own in all caps. Result: the quoted text was changed to all lowercase! ETA: Actually, not all lowercase. Looks like it keeps capitals after a period. Very odd. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/10 "2015-12-03T18:59:10Z")
> [@WF\_Tomba](#): > > As you can see from my previous post, the anti-caps-lock-abuse function messes with quotes in an undesirable way. I quoted a previous poster’s mixed-case text, then added a few words of my own in all caps. Result: the quoted text was changed to all lowercase! > > ETA: Actually, not all lowercase. Looks like it keeps capitals after a period. Very odd. It also changed the mid-sentence “I” to lowercase. It looks like it changed everything that it perceived to be a word. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/11 "2015-12-04T22:32:17Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Funny enough I don’t usually bother with the LIST function and just manually make a list (which would have created no issue for you) … I only did under the peer influence of your formatting in the post I was responding to! 🙂 > [@WF\_Tomba](#): > > As you can see from my previous post, the anti-caps-lock-abuse function messes with quotes in an undesirable way. I quoted a previous poster’s mixed-case text, then added a few words of my own in all caps. Result: the quoted text was changed to all lowercase! > > ETA: Actually, not all lowercase. Looks like it keeps capitals after a period. Very odd. TEST. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/12 "2015-12-04T22:33:22Z")
[QUOTE=DSeid] Funny enough I don’t usually bother with the LIST function and just manually make a list (which would have created no issue for you) … I only did under the peer influence of your formatting in the post I was responding to! 🙂 [/QUOTE] TEST ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/13 "2015-12-04T23:07:26Z")
> [@dseid](#): > > funny enough i don’t usually bother with the list function and just manually make a list (which would have created no issue for you) … I only did under the peer influence of your formatting in the post i was responding to! 🙂 test test. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/14 "2015-12-04T23:09:07Z")
Both my “test” were uppercase. Looks like it needs to be more than one word. TEST. It’s just an odd bit of programming, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/15 "2015-12-05T15:05:45Z")
[QUOTH=Frank;18911612]test test.[/QUOTH] TEST ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/16 "2015-12-05T15:06:53Z")
> [@Quoth Frank](#): > > [test test. TEST ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/17 "2015-12-05T15:07:53Z")
- Shakes fist at **Chronos** \* ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/18 "2015-12-05T20:33:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Leo Bloom** > > - Shakes fist at **Chronos** \* Easy peasy. 🙂 It’s just [noparse] > [@](#): > > Quoth **Leo Bloom** > > - Shakes fist at **Chronos** \* [/noparse] Note his quotes don’t include the clickable arrow. And the “Quoth **\** ” part is \*inside \*the quote box. IOW it’s just text he types in there between two unadorned QUOTE tags. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/19 "2015-12-06T17:38:11Z")
Yes–I realized that in a sudden burst of aha! before I scrolled down and saw your dissection. But you lose the pingback–which is the point of the feature, as a quote/_cite_, to see full context as a post, the status of the conversation back whenever, etc. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070/20 "2015-12-06T21:17:23Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > **Quoth:** > Yes–I realized that in a sudden burst of aha! before I scrolled down and saw your dissection. > > ## But you lose the pingback–which is the point of the feature, as a quote/_cite_, to see full context as a post, the status of the conversation back whenever, etc. > > Further affiant sayeth not. # But you can do the above if you want. You get the best of both worlds: attribution, pingback \*and \*pretentious pre- and post-amble. 🙂 _Lux ex tenebris_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/automatic-changes-inside-quote-boxes/739070.md?page=2)