# Availability and lethality of guns and body counts

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/availability-and-lethality-of-guns-and-body-counts/809469>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 24, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/availability-and-lethality-of-guns-and-body-counts/809469 "2018-02-24T16:03:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/availability-and-lethality-of-guns-and-body-counts/809469/31 "2018-02-26T23:49:05Z")

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Here’s the thing, **XT** : your well-reasoned and nuanced response isn’t the phrasing that’s being delivered to public day in and day out by the people who want to keep lots of guns. What I wrote was exactly what they say, and it’s a bunch of bullshit.

People without guns are not defenseless, is the most important thing. No one denies that there are ways to kill without a gun, but some people deny that there is a way to defend themselves without a gun.

ETA: For example:

> [@Arming teachers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arming-teachers/808927/121):
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> I did not. Then keep all guns out of schools.

> [@Arming teachers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arming-teachers/808927/124):
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> You didn’t think they were inviting-enough targets already? Now you want them _completely_ defenseless?

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