# Avatar is getting 3 sequels? Wha?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 2, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830 "2014-06-02T13:22:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/21 "2014-06-03T12:54:33Z")
I’ll be there - Cameron has earned my trust by now (at least for the _first_ of the sequels. I learned my lesson, Wachowskis, I learned well…) ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/22 "2014-08-26T11:41:22Z")
Sorry for the resurrection of an oldish thread, but I just heard of this and… Well, I am somewhat surprised. _3_ sequels?! I mean… Honestly; given how assholish Earthlings are generally portrayed as being in the movie, there is only one end I can imagine for the whole story: X years after the events of “Avatar” Earth sends a big fleet to Pandora, nukes the whole wretched place and those uppity smurfs to smithereens and strip-mines what remains to its heart’s content. But… _3_ sequels…? O.o ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/23 "2014-08-26T14:21:10Z")
The Earthlings might try to do that, but what gives you the idea that they’d have the slightest chance of success? It’s much more likely that the side with the superior technology would win. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/24 "2014-08-26T14:44:00Z")
I have a limited tolerance for stories that are built around making me hate myself or my group. “Humans are a plague” stories are not new in science fiction and they are not getting any more interesting than they ever were. Unless Cameron comes up with a different Pandora story to tell, I’m not interested in even one sequel. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/25 "2014-08-26T14:55:05Z")
This. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/26 "2014-08-26T16:14:43Z")
I don’t think that was really the message of _Avatar_, though. Sigourney Weaver and her team were humans, as was what’s-his-name the protagonist. If you’re going to go that route, then the message is that _some_ humans are a plague. Which shows up in nearly every work of fiction ever created. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/27 "2014-08-26T16:30:42Z")
The noble aliens leading their idyllic lives until the rapacious humans come and destroy their culture/world has been an overused idea in sci-fi ever since I can remember. It seems like it was particularly overused in the 60’s and 70’s. Adding a couple humans who “go native” doesn’t really change much…and they were doing that in stories 40 years ago too. The story in Avatar didn’t bring one new thing to the party, I was tired of the story before the movie was made. Special effects aren’t going to make me sit through it again. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/28 "2014-08-26T16:43:52Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I have a limited tolerance for stories that are built around making me hate myself or my group. “Humans are a plague” stories are not new in science fiction and they are not getting any more interesting than they ever were. Unless Cameron comes up with a different Pandora story to tell, I’m not interested in even one sequel. Right. And I wanna see if he gets paid off by Big Tobacco again. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/29 "2014-08-26T16:58:22Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The Earthlings might try to do that, but what gives you the idea that they’d have the slightest chance of success? It’s much more likely that the side with the superior technology would win. Yeah, the Earthlings. They had a massive firepower advantage, which inexplicably failed to carry the day, especially given the fact that the Na’vi presented larger-than-human targets. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/30 "2014-08-26T17:04:19Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > I mean… Honestly; given how assholish Earthlings are generally portrayed as being in the movie, there is only one end I can imagine for the whole story: X years after the events of “Avatar” Earth sends a big fleet to Pandora, nukes the whole wretched place and those uppity smurfs to smithereens and strip-mines what remains to its heart’s content. Throw in some displaced Pandorans trying to pull their shattered communities out of alcohol and meth addiction by opening casinos and _I’ll_ buy a ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/31 "2014-08-26T17:37:50Z")
Hey, _Jaws_ has three sequels, and they were, um … never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/32 "2014-08-26T18:08:25Z")
Here’s my idea: The first sequel begins a couple of years after the first movie. Sully and the Navi girl (don’t care to look up her name) are trying to start a family, which is important for her, but she isn’t getting pregnant. This is causing stress in their relationship. Looking for answers, Sully goes back to the human base. Besides himself, two humans were allowed to stay: the other avatar guy (whose avatar was killed during the final battle) and the Indian tech guy. When Sully arrives, he finds only the tech guy. It turns out that Other Avatar Guy killed himself because he couldn’t stand the lonliness and isolation. (Remember, humans can’t breathe the air on Pandora, so these guys would be stuck in/around the base for the rest of their lives.) Sully finds out from the tech guy that the avatars are sterile. The humans who planned the project weren’t idiots; they knew what sort of hijinks might occur, so they made sure that there wouldn’t be any unexpected avatar babies running around. This would provide some internal conflict, as Sully would have to deal with the fact that can never give his girl the family she wants. I’d have the main threat be aliens (non-humans, that is). We could save the Revenge of the Humans for a later sequel. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/33 "2014-08-26T18:32:03Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Throw in some displaced Pandorans trying to pull their shattered communities out of alcohol and meth addiction by opening casinos and _I’ll_ buy a ticket. Yep. The story is just that much more tired if you include all the times it was Indians/Whites rather than aliens/humans in all the revisionist westerns from the 60’s-70’s. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/34 "2014-08-26T19:41:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’ll be there - Cameron has earned my trust by now (at least for the _first_ of the sequels. I learned my lesson, Wachowskis, I learned well…) I tend to agree. Every time people have said Cameron was overreaching and was going to fall, he’s proven them wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/35 "2014-08-26T19:48:14Z")
One interesting approach would be showing how the Na’vi deal with the threat hanging over their head. We saw them win the first battle - but there’s still a war going on. There’s no reason to think Earth won’t be coming back with reinforcements to retake Pandora. So how do the Na’vi prepare for this? Do they militarize their society and try to build up a technological base? Or do they trust to their traditional ways? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/36 "2014-08-26T20:05:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I tend to agree. Every time people have said Cameron was overreaching and was going to fall, he’s proven them wrong. I disagree. I think the Avatar backlash is pretty widespread. It’s just that no one is very vocal about it because the movie was so meh. I won’t be surprised if the first sequel is just a modest success instead of a major blockbuster. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/37 "2014-08-26T20:09:21Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I tend to agree. Every time people have said Cameron was overreaching and was going to fall, he’s proven them wrong. _Sanctum_. His last film, too. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/38 "2014-08-26T20:23:52Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > _Sanctum_. His last film, too. But he did not right or direct that one. He was executive producer. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/39 "2014-08-26T21:07:01Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I disagree. I think the Avatar backlash is pretty widespread. I have a hard time seeing the most successful movie in history as a failure. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830/40 "2014-08-26T21:09:52Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I have a hard time seeing the most successful movie in history as a failure. Who said anything about failure? I said there’s a very non-vocal, but very real, backlash against it today. No one talks about Avatar anymore. Even the people that were over the moon about it when it came out. Any sequel is going to have a real hard time measuring up to the first one when it comes to box office business. Especially after the 3D fad has come and gone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-is-getting-3-sequels-wha/689830.md?page=3)