# Avatar (Pre-release speculation)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 15, 2009, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336 "2009-12-15T08:56:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/121 "2009-12-17T11:10:10Z")

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> [@ajb867](#):
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> Why? I wanted people to discuss their views about the film whether or not they enjoyed it. Just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t mean it has to be shuffled off away from view were only opinions you agree with are discussed (wouldn’t that be kinda boring? “Looks like we are in agreement then!”). I’m sure there are going to be people who will see the movie and not like it. That’s fine I’m sure its not for everyone but I can’t wait to see it especially after people came straight back to this thread saying it was amazing.

There needs to be a thread for **PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE** that doesn’t have 112 previous posts by people who HAVE NOT SEEN the movie.

What makes you think I would want people who didn’t like the movie to stay out of that new thread? If people see the movie and don’t like it, fine, they should post that, along with their reasons, in the thread for PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE. Their opinions will have a little more weight than opinions based on a 3-minute trailer and teabagger vomit.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/122 "2009-12-17T11:33:13Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> There needs to be a thread for **PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE** that doesn’t have 112 previous posts by people who HAVE NOT SEEN the movie.

> **[Avatar: Now that you've actually seen it. No spoilers in OP](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=544267)**
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> There’s a thread for people who haven’t seen it here. Please try to keep this thread about the actual movie and your impressions or questions about it. Went to see it last night. I thought it was fantastic. The visuals are stunning. CGI is the best...

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/123 "2009-12-17T15:12:15Z")

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Thank you, but I see that it’s already got posts from people who, sigh, haven’t seen the movie. Sheesh.

I’m not going to post there until I’ve seen the film, hopefully at midnight tonight.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/124 "2009-12-17T17:33:29Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Did you see the recent episode of **Bones**? The secondary plot was the squints trying to get tickets to **Avatar** , waiting outside the theater, people in make-up as the Na’vi (!?), etc. They even showed part of the trailer \*within \*the episode as the characters watched it on a big screen TV, and talked about how it was best thing they’ve ever seen and it’s so amazing, etc.

No, I’ve never watched that show. But I’m not that opposed to it. I appreciate product placement as an artform. If they did it poorly in that episode then that’s an aesthetic critique, but I don’t think there is anything wrong with using your promo to create a topical episode.

I don’t even know what Bones is about though.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/125 "2009-12-17T19:05:22Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Thank you, but I see that it’s already got posts from people who, sigh, haven’t seen the movie. Sheesh.

On noes!!! Someone asked a one sentence question about the type of 3D glasses used! That means they hate the movie and want it to fail and now it’s all hijacked. Crap, better start yet another thread!

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/126 "2009-12-17T20:30:08Z")

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Teabagger vomit?

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Is it in 3D?

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/127 "2009-12-17T23:14:16Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> On noes!!! Someone asked a one sentence question about the type of 3D glasses used! That means they hate the movie and want it to fail and now it’s all hijacked. Crap, better start yet another thread!

I’m not really _such_ a bitch. When I wrote that, I was just afraid that the thread would quickly devolve into a discussion about 3D types, systems and philosophy, that’s all. It, at least the philosophy, sure took over the other thread for quite a while, and I had these visions in my head about what the thread could soon look like.

It looks like it didn’t though, so that’s good.

I have midnight tickets, whoo! I’m going to see The Blues Brothers first, it’s playing at Piper’s Alley and it’s the last night. I’ve never seen The Blues Brothers. Blue brothers, blue aliens, a blue night for me. 🙂

**mlees** , ha!

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/128 "2009-12-18T05:26:19Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> No, I’ve never watched that show. But I’m not that opposed to it. I appreciate product placement as an artform. If they did it poorly in that episode then that’s an aesthetic critique, but I don’t think there is anything wrong with using your promo to create a topical episode.
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> I don’t even know what Bones is about though.

Bones is about a forensic anthropologist who partners up with an FBI agent to solve crimes, essentially. It’s a little goofy science-wise, like all forensic/police shows, but it’s worth watching just to see how Emily Deschanel plays the character. And all the other characters are pretty fun too.

I actually thought the Avatar subplot in that episode was awesome. It reminded me a lot of how my friends and I would behave when we were super-excited about something. Except for the having-sex-in-a-tent-while-waiting-in-line part, alas.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/129 "2009-12-18T07:52:55Z")

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> [@chorpler](#):
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> I actually thought the Avatar subplot in that episode was awesome. It reminded me a lot of how my friends and I would behave when we were super-excited about something. Except for the having-sex-in-a-tent-while-waiting-in-line part, alas.

Yeah the actual subplot was actually funny in parts and certainly in character. But the fact that it was a real movie and obviously an advertisement just about ruined my ability to enjoy it. It should have either been a fake movie, or it should have been more subtle.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/130 "2009-12-18T14:29:30Z")

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> [@chorpler](#):
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> It’s a little goofy science-wise, like all forensic/police shows…

Well, like all forensic/police shows set in present time where the workhorse lab equipment is a desktop holodeck.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/131 "2009-12-18T15:10:45Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> Well, like all forensic/police shows set in present time where the workhorse lab equipment is a desktop holodeck.

I’m not sure why people say that about Bones. The holodeck is rarely used and when it is used, it’s more or less just an industrial version of The Sims. While something exactly like that probably doesn’t exist in the real world, something very similar to it could probably be whipped up real easy.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/132 "2009-12-19T06:57:24Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I’m not sure why people say that about Bones. The holodeck is rarely used and when it is used, it’s more or less just an industrial version of The Sims. While something exactly like that probably doesn’t exist in the real world, something very similar to it could probably be whipped up real easy.

I’ve never seen Bones. Something like in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=544401)?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-pre-release-speculation/521336/133 "2009-12-19T07:22:18Z")

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Since the movie’s opened I’m going to shut this down. Everybody is strongly reminded to keep the conversation civil [in the current thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=544267) rather than throwing out personal jabs and barbs about fanboy-ism.

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