# Avatar: The Last Airbender

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 17, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777 "2008-07-17T01:27:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/41 "2008-07-19T15:47:34Z")

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In all fairness, the others are all - through experience and hardship - becoming real masters in their disciplines whereas Aang is learning four at once. Gotta give’em the curve.  
And, by God, do I want to make this into a roleplaying game.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/42 "2008-07-19T16:02:53Z")

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Plus we don’t have any other airbenders to compare to like we do with everyone else.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/43 "2008-07-20T04:03:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Gorgon Heap]  
Oh, crap. See, _this_ is why I try not to think too deeply in to shows I really like. That is really a good friggin’ bet.

Dangit.  
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There, you feel better now?

[spoiler]And we _still_ don’t (and apparently will never) know what happened to Zuko’s Mom. Why did they even include Zuko asking the Fire-loser about him?

It is sweet that in the end Aang and Katara were together.

And it was reasonably well done how Aang resolved the fight with the Fire Lord. Lion-turtles, huh? Whatever. I could barely understand what the turtle-island was saying, I’ll have go back and check that out.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/44 "2008-07-20T04:13:13Z")

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I’ve started watching the show thanks to this thread, and I’m almost finished with the first season. I’m really enjoying it. Aang annoys the _crap_ out of me for some reason, but I’ve pretty much gotten over that… I can’t help but feel bad for Sokka though. He’s the Xander to Aang’s Buffy, and he does that role well, but I feel bad for the fact that he has to travel with two (by all accounts) extremely talented benders, and gets to watch them grow up and presumably surpass him by leaps and bounds, since I assume bending \> swordplay in a depressing number of circumstances.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/45 "2008-07-20T04:18:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Omi no Kami]  
I’ve started watching the show thanks to this thread, and I’m almost finished with the first season. I’m really enjoying it. Aang annoys the _crap_ out of me for some reason, but I’ve pretty much gotten over that… I can’t help but feel bad for Sokka though. He’s the Xander to Aang’s Buffy, and he does that role well, but I feel bad for the fact that he has to travel with two (by all accounts) extremely talented benders, and gets to watch them grow up and presumably surpass him by leaps and bounds, since I assume bending \> swordplay in a depressing number of circumstances.  
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Sokka gets a good arc, and even an episode later on devoted entirely to that question. All the characters grow, just at different places & paces.

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/46 "2008-07-20T04:23:28Z")

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[QUOTE=squeegee]  
Sokka gets a good arc, and even an episode later on devoted entirely to that question. All the characters grow, just at different places & paces.  
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I assumed something like that would happen, but I can’t help but fell sorry for him in the interim. 🙂

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/47 "2008-07-20T04:43:40Z")

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I forgot to pat myself on the back over the whole “pai sho” connection. Pat. Pat.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Cream_Man)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/48 "2008-07-20T15:10:48Z")

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I guess Katara is going to have a bunch of air nomad babies.

What an awesome show.

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/49 "2008-07-20T23:08:46Z")

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Hmm, so I’m almost finished with Season 2 now.

[spoiler]I wish Suki had stayed with the group; it’s fun having somebody who treats Sakka nicely.

Toph seems kind of underutilized. She got two or three good episodes, and now it seems as if she’s just there to represent an extra pair of hands in fight scenes.  
The Katara vs. sea monster fight _rocked_.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/50 "2008-07-21T00:07:25Z")

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Omi no Kami: Toph seems kind of underutilized.[/spoiler][spoiler]Yeah, she kinda was sometimes. But when the writers took her for a spin it was almost always pretty awesome.

Omi no Kami: The Katara vs. sea monster fight _rocked_.[/spoiler][spoiler]Yep. You’re entering the part where she (and others) get very awesome bending abilities. My hats are off to the writers & animators for their creativity with hers and others’ bending styles.

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**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/51 "2008-07-21T15:39:50Z")

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Loved the show. It is the best show on Nikelodeon. Wish the creators would do more episodes since there were a few unresolved questions.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/52 "2008-07-21T23:11:03Z")

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The creators are going to be at the SDCC on Friday - probably someone will bung up footage from that on the net at some point.

Edit: Feck, I forgot to say; awesomeness. Spoilers for the finale;

I liked the fact that (and this could possibly just be me being a muppet) it was genuinely possible that Aang was going to kill Ozai. I liked the fact that, to whatever small extent, it wasn’t immediately obvious that there was going to be some cunning way to stop him without killing him. They didn’t just make the “kill the bastard and let’s be done with it” argument stupid, and gave some pretty good reasons why it would be so. That’s nice in an animated series. Although I did figure out that if he didn’t kill the guy, it would be a stripping of powers, but I blame that on too much reading of Star Wars EU.

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/53 "2008-07-22T07:06:52Z")

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I just started the third season, and I’m wondering if I could ask people to clarify a few things that I’m confused on. Namely:

First off, where did Zuko’s sociopathic girlfriend come from? Were they involved before he was exiled, or what? I can’t remember much interaction during the second season, so her apparently instantaneous transition from Charlie’s Death Squad to Zuko’s alarmingly unwound girlfriend was a little unsettling.  
Secondly, also on the topic of the Avatarbusters: is there something wrong with the former circus performer, or is she just supposed to be eccentric? She seems to be reasonably normal half of the time, and unbelievably bizarre the other half.

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/54 "2008-07-22T21:55:15Z")

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SPIRITBENDING,  
How cool!

I presume there will be a movie featuring the story of Ursa.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/55 "2008-07-23T01:45:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Omi no Kami]  
I just started the third season, and I’m wondering if I could ask people to clarify a few things that I’m confused on. Namely:  
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First off, where did Zuko’s sociopathic girlfriend come from? Were they involved before he was exiled, or what? I can’t remember much interaction during the second season, so her apparently instantaneous transition from Charlie’s Death Squad to Zuko’s alarmingly unwound girlfriend was a little unsettling.[/spoiler][spoiler]They apparently were childhood sweethearts. There were flashbacks about this; I think one of them was in the episode, _The Storm_ in season one.

Secondly, also on the topic of the Avatarbusters: is there something wrong with the former circus performer, or is she just supposed to be eccentric? She seems to be reasonably normal half of the time, and unbelievably bizarre the other half.[/spoiler][spoiler]There’s an episode that explains some of this coming up in S-3, _Ember Island_. She’s also just a teenage girl – flighty.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/56 "2009-06-24T02:29:45Z")

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…bumping this one…

The official Teaser for the movie is up. Looks fantastically good!

> **[The Last Airbender](https://www.facebook.com/thelastairbendermovie)**
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> The Last Airbender. 3,261,911 likes · 48 talking about this. Four nations, One destiny.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/57 "2009-06-24T05:27:37Z")

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Very cool, thanks! Not a lot of info in the trailer, but they had some fun with level-0 airbending. 🙂 I wish we’d gotten a better look at Aang. I await developments.

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**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/58 "2009-06-24T15:34:26Z")

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Really not a lot of info there - I wish we had seen Katara and Zuko as well…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/59 "2009-06-24T17:20:18Z")

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I’m not reading the whole thread, since I’m still in season 2 and it looks like there are spoilers mixed in there, but what is the relation of this world to ours? The Netflix summary of season two says it’s a “far future world”, but there hasn’t been any indication of that so far in the show. On the other hand, though, the world seems to match ours astronomically: They’ve got a moon (with the same pattern of craters as ours) with the same apparent size as the Sun, and the stars are the same (though grouped into constellations a bit differently).

If it is a future world, though, it would have to be extremely far future. The Avatar cycle has continued for what, thousands of generations?

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatar-the-last-airbender/456777/60 "2009-06-24T18:49:47Z")

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I was anxiously awaiting this.

Then I saw that its being directed by M. Knight Shamalayan.

Now I’m dreading this. Its not going to bear any resemblance to the cartoon I love.

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