# Avatards

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 5, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161 "2010-10-05T19:22:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/261 "2010-10-08T05:01:23Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> (I predict a high number of LOTR icons)

And [Monty](http://imgur.com/dp0XG.jpg) [Python](http://imgur.com/2B7Xq.gif) [avatars](http://imgur.com/6G117.gif). [Can’t](http://imgur.com/WXqdf.jpg) [forget](http://imgur.com/Gzz4Z.jpg) [those](http://imgur.com/zSOZq.jpg). [Also](http://imgur.com/CwY8v.gif), [Star](http://imgur.com/EPFnz.jpg) [Trek](http://imgur.com/c49Y1.jpg), [Star](http://imgur.com/3rkrI.jpg) [Wars](http://imgur.com/gTzJJ.jpg), and [Doctor](http://imgur.com/zfHkf.jpg) [Who](http://imgur.com/1H2kI.gif).

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/262 "2010-10-08T06:50:58Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > You’d be missing out if you couldn’t see mine–I’ve introduced more than one person to [NPWIL](http://www.bohemiandrive.com/comics/npwil.html) through them!
> 
> O hell no - do you think I want to see an otherwise halfway-on-topic thread being diverted by “golly, that’s a nifty avatar you have there!” “Gee wow, it’s from \<insert 10,000 word advertisement here\>!” Do you think I want to see that _even once_?
> 
> I was on the side of allowing avatars since I can turn them off, but with this, no. I can’t turn off people talking _about_ the avatars, so let’s just keep the crap out completely, eh?

!

This.  
A 1000 times this!

**begbert2** has succinctly described the salient point of this whooooooole debate.

Whether or not people can opt out doesn’t matter at all because, as **begbert2** says: “(we) can’t turn off people talking _about_ the avatars”.

That effectively takes the “but you can turn them off!” argument off the table.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/263 "2010-10-08T06:54:22Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Hey, **Love** , nice av!

Are you just being **Mean**? 😉

PS–Where’s _your_ av??

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/264 "2010-10-08T07:13:40Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > As long as avatars aren’t taking up space and interfering with the conversations in the fora, everything’s cool. Reminder: \*\*WE ALREADY ALLOW AVATARS. \*\* They are located in the user profiles.
> 
> Note: that’s not an avatar. And that’s only available to members. :rolleyes: As has been pointed out to you.
> 
> Christ.

It functions perfectly as an avatar. That is, _IF_ people are being honest when they say that “all they want is a way to put a face with a name.” As for members-only: how about–if you want to use the feature, become a member? Or, maybe TPTB would make user profile pix available to all??

Christ.

If, _instead_, what avatar advocates _really_ want is free ad space for their favorite webcomic or a virtual “mum’s refrigerator door” next to every single post they make, then it does _not_ function as an avatar.

Zoaraster.

I think what people really want in an avatar is starting to show through here. Don’t make this message board like that. Take it somewhere else. 'k?

Apollo. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/265 "2010-10-08T07:27:44Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > [@begbert2](#):
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> > O hell no - do you think I want to see an otherwise halfway-on-topic thread being diverted by “golly, that’s a nifty avatar you have there!” “Gee wow, it’s from \<insert 10,000 word advertisement here\>!” Do you think I want to see that _even once_?
> > 
> > I was on the side of allowing avatars since I can turn them off, but with this, no. I can’t turn off people talking _about_ the avatars, so let’s just keep the crap out completely, eh?
> 
> !
> 
> This.  
> A 1000 times this!
> 
> **begbert2** has succinctly described the salient point of this whooooooole debate.
> 
> Whether or not people can opt out doesn’t matter at all because, as **begbert2** says: “(we) can’t turn off people talking _about_ the avatars”.
> 
> That effectively takes the “but you can turn them off!” argument off the table.

If only there were some mechanism that existed so that we could avoid discussions that didn’t interest us. Possibly some form of text label applied to every thread. It should also be possible to separate threads with similar topics somehow… :smack:

But what about avatar-related comments in-thread you say? Well it is obviously true that it could lead to a terrible new phenomenon I am going to name “Hi-jacking”. Hard to imagine such a thing could possibly happen here but it is a risk I am willing to take. 🙂

But seriously now. To head off both your objections I propose the following:

1. Make a new forum for avatar-related fun and games. Wouldn’t want MPSIMS to become trivialised now would we?
2. Make it a point of board etiquette or even a rule, that avatar-related compliments and comments should not be made outside the new forum or PMs.

Happy now?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/266 "2010-10-08T07:28:44Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> It functions perfectly as an avatar. That is, _IF_ people are being honest when they say that “all they want is a way to put a face with a name.”

That actually isn’t what many (myself included) are saying.

Bonus points for having an honest username though, as you’ve made its sentiment abundantly clear.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/267 "2010-10-08T07:36:25Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > But as I’ve said–we already have the ability to post "avatars: (pictures) in our profiles. Isn’t that good enough?
> 
> Again for reading comprehension: Only PAYING MEMBERS have this ability, dumbass. And that is NOT AN AVATAR.
> 
> Jesus Christ, you’re thick.

The user profile pix ARE effectively avatars, dumbass, except they are even better. Just think of them as AvatarsPLUS!

Try New AvatarsPLUS! --all the advantages of an avatar (putting a face with a name) WITHOUT all that pesky, random, image-based garbage shitting all over every post in every thread!!!

And why do you keep mentioning that only paying members can view profiles–as if that has something to do with me? If you don’t like that, talk to the Administrators. What makes you think that a new avatar feature wouldn’t only be open to members also?

You’re really pissy about this, you know? You must want to puke-up that rainbow-colored unicorn from the Ren-Faire really bad, huh?

Take a break. Set down the doughnuts, maybe go for that walk you’ve been excitedly talking about with friend(s); planning for months; staying up all night laughing and crying about in nervous anticipation. Take that walk to front door and check the mail.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/268 "2010-10-08T07:57:17Z")

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> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > It functions perfectly as an avatar. That is, _IF_ people are being honest when they say that “all they want is a way to put a face with a name.”
> 
> That actually isn’t what many (myself included) are saying.

Ahh. I figured. It’s the lolzcatz and webcomic spam next to every one of your posts then, eh?

> [@](#):
>
> Bonus points for having an honest username though, as you’ve made its sentiment abundantly clear.

I’m sorry you don’t understand palindromes. In any event, in seems you’re accusing me of some sort of narcissism. Check this out: I’m not the one advocating for a Glamour Shots portrait from 1992 next to every one of my posts.

But I don’t need an avatar by _your_ name to remind me of who _you_ are. To me you are, and will always be, **hatchet-wound** , and the vision of well-worn whorebits unfurled to the floor like some monstrous advert for free, gaping cooze comes far too easily.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/269 "2010-10-08T08:02:06Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> Check this out: I’m not the one advocating for a Glamour Shots portrait from 1992 next to every one of my posts. .

Neither am I. But you continue to impress me with your seemingly proactive need to remain ignorant in regards to what some people are actually arguing.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/270 "2010-10-08T08:02:43Z")

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> [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](#):
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> But seriously now. To head off both your objections I propose the following:
> 
> 1. Make a new forum for avatar-related fun and games. Wouldn’t want MPSIMS to become trivialised now would we?
> 2. Make it a point of board etiquette or even a rule, that avatar-related compliments and comments should not be made outside the new forum or PMs.
> 
> Happy now?

Better yet, make a new message board. A board dedicated to couthless picture-book mouth-readers who love to look at shiny things.

A message board with no words.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/271 "2010-10-08T08:05:55Z")

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> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > Check this out: I’m not the one advocating for a Glamour Shots portrait from 1992 next to every one of my posts. .
> 
> Neither am I. But you continue to impress me with your seemingly proactive need to remain ignorant in regards to what some people are actually arguing.

And yet those who are against avatars have been equated with hating gays, being scared of abortions and raping military puppies.

Dont be dense, there is misrepresentation on both sides.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/272 "2010-10-08T08:21:11Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Dont be dense, there is misrepresentation on both sides.

I addressed a single person and was not speaking on behalf or against any group.

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**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/273 "2010-10-08T08:21:42Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](#):
> >
> > But seriously now. To head off both your objections I propose the following:
> > 
> > 1. Make a new forum for avatar-related fun and games. Wouldn’t want MPSIMS to become trivialised now would we?
> > 2. Make it a point of board etiquette or even a rule, that avatar-related compliments and comments should not be made outside the new forum or PMs.
> > 
> > Happy now?
> 
> Better yet, make a new message board. A board dedicated to couthless picture-book mouth-readers who love to look at shiny things.
> 
> A message board with no words.

I find your irrational anger amusing. The idea that you would be forced to look at avatars is ridiculous. They would be totally optional to both have and see.

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**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/274 "2010-10-08T08:26:08Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> > [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
> >
> > Neither am I. But you continue to impress me with your seemingly proactive need to remain ignorant in regards to what some people are actually arguing.
> 
> And yet those who are against avatars have been equated with hating gays, being scared of abortions and raping military puppies.
> 
> Dont be dense, there is misrepresentation on both sides.

Yep and this post of yours is a great example of misrepresentation. People have **compared** the **arguments** used by those against avatars, to the **arguments** used by gay-bashers.

No equating, and it’s the arguments they are referring to, not the people making them. Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/275 "2010-10-08T08:44:15Z")

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> [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](#):
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> > [@bucketybuck](#):
> >
> > And yet those who are against avatars have been equated with hating gays, being scared of abortions and raping military puppies.
> > 
> > Dont be dense, there is misrepresentation on both sides.
> 
> Yep and this post of yours is a great example of misrepresentation. People have **compared** the **arguments** used by those against avatars, to the **arguments** used by gay-bashers.
> 
> No equating, and it’s the arguments they are referring to, not the people making them. Sheesh.

Sure.

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**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/276 "2010-10-08T08:51:52Z")

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OK, cite me a post in this thread where someone specifically equates you with a homophobe.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/277 "2010-10-08T09:55:06Z")

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> [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](#):
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> OK, cite me a post in this thread where someone specifically equates you with a homophobe.

Is this where you want to get into a retarded circlejerk of “Thats not what was said, he said, she said, we said, the dog said, the cat smirked, semantic nitpicking?”

Well, no, I couldnt be bothered. Equates ME with a homophobe? I couldnt care if anybody equates me with Mugabes homophobic scrotum.

My point was quite clear. Red Barracuda said  
“your seemingly proactive need to remain ignorant in regards to what some people are actually arguing”.  
I simply pointed out that applied both ways. And it does. Except not to me.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/278 "2010-10-08T10:15:44Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> > [@jsgoddess](#):
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> > But some of you people clutch the board to your breasties like anti-vaxxer mommies protecting their children.
> 
> In the interest of maintaining an accurate vilification chart, are these anti-vaxxers the same posters who’d deny gays the right to marry and women the right to vote, or a different group?
> 
> And I know it’s tempting, but you might consider being a bit more economical with the slanderous comparisons or you’re going to exhaust them before you know it. You’re already burned through “misogynists,” “homophobes,” and now “conspiracy nuts”— I guess you can still use “Nazis,” although I did imply it myself— it’d just be a shame if you ran out of your high-caliber smears and had nothing left but tame curses, like “rascals” or “ninnies,” which would be really anticlimactic.
> 
> Ooh! I thought of one: people who don’t like message board avatars are like just _slave traders_! You could even get two slurs out of that, using the “Atlantic slave trade” and the “kidnapper/pimp for underage girls” definitions. (If I think of any others, I’ll let you know.)

Gun runners  
Grow ops operators  
Coyotes (both the 4 and 2 legged kind)  
Bollywood stars  
The guys who stole the plot for _Cars_ from that other movie

Hell, the well does go dry pretty fast, doesn’t it.

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**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/279 "2010-10-08T10:22:33Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> > [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](#):
> >
> > OK, cite me a post in this thread where someone specifically equates you with a homophobe.
> 
> Is this where you want to get into a retarded circlejerk of “Thats not what was said, he said, she said, we said, the dog said, the cat smirked, semantic nitpicking?”
> 
> Well, no, I couldnt be bothered. Equates ME with a homophobe? I couldnt care if anybody equates me with Mugabes homophobic scrotum.
> 
> My point was quite clear. Red Barracuda said  
> “your seemingly proactive need to remain ignorant in regards to what some people are actually arguing”.  
> I simply pointed out that applied both ways. And it does. Except not to me.

Sure.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatards/556161/280 "2010-10-08T10:56:00Z")

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I figured that before the ban on commenting on avatars comes into being and extends to commenting on user names, that I would comment on a user name.

I really like the name **GSV Consolation of Dreams**.

That is all.

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