# avatars

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 2, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242 "2004-10-02T22:47:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/61 "2004-10-03T11:11:42Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> That’s just the kind of reply I’d expect from an ass kissing n00b putting on a show for the regs & mods around here. I asked tomndebb legitimate questions, I didnt ask for a posthumping toadie to give me any lip

You’ve all been giving him _far_ too much credit. Only an emotionally stunted 12 year old with an affective disorder would behave like this.

That he really thinks he knows what he’s talking about would be funny were it not outweighed by the sheer sad nature of his reality.

To sum up: _it sucks to be him_.

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**Author:** ![Mikahw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Mikahw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikahw)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/62 "2004-10-03T11:12:47Z")

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> I want somebody from the admin to give me some viable answers about my issues!

Dude, they’re admins, not psychologists.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/63 "2004-10-03T11:13:30Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> I dont have time to argue with the riff raff in here about issues they don’t have the depth or qualifications to talk about anyway. Put me through to the head honcho around here. I want somebody from the admin to give me some viable answers about my issues! I’m not just going to give this site free money to be dictated to about my board profile options! Who do you people think you’re dealing with here anyway? Get in the back seat and let me drive and I’ll bring sweeping changes to this dustbowl.
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> I request the board owner to address the true issue of this thread immediately and give me some answers that I can’t poke full of holes without opening my eyes.

Ain’t you sweet. I’m sure the dope will struggle on without you driving.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/64 "2004-10-03T11:28:12Z")

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Avatars suck.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/65 "2004-10-03T12:24:25Z")

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When avatars are banned, only the banned will have avatars.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/66 "2004-10-03T12:32:48Z")

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> [@Mikahw](#):
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> Dude, they’re admins, not psychologists.

Now _that_ was a great reply!

And to anyone else trying to make a point to Beaver Cleaver, give it up. Hell, his very name proves he’s a dick. Usually, there’s not anything wrong with that. In his case, though, all it means is that he’s stuck up, rigid, and spewing all over his keyboard.

Now, back to gheying up this thread, y’all.

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/67 "2004-10-03T12:33:01Z")

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Because they take up unnecessary bandwidth and server power.

Because they’re distracting.

Because some people think their avatar is more important than the content of their post.

Because they don’t provide anything useful that a well-composed post couldn’t do twenty times better.

Because the moderator workload would double (at least) from policing avatars to make sure nobody used explicit and/or copyrighted images.

Because the majority of the people here don’t want them.

Don’t like any of the above reasons? Is the ability to have an avatar your number one priority when checking out a new message board? Then buh-bye, now, and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

If, on the other hand, you think you can get over the travesty that is the lack of avatars on the SDMB, feel free to stick around. If nothing else, we could use the $14.95 to buy some more of whatever we’re feeding the hamsters lately – it’s working.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/68 "2004-10-03T13:37:09Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> I dont have time to argue with the riff raff in here about issues they don’t have the depth or qualifications to talk about anyway. Put me through to the head honcho around here. I want somebody from the admin to give me some viable answers about my issues! I’m not just going to give this site free money to be dictated to about my board profile options! Who do you people think you’re dealing with here anyway? Get in the back seat and let me drive and I’ll bring sweeping changes to this dustbowl.
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> I request the board owner to address the true issue of this thread immediately and give me some answers that I can’t poke full of holes without opening my eyes.

Do you (or indeed does anyone) know how much admins giggle when people make demands?

I mean, I can’t necessarily speak for **Lynn** or anyone else, but when I read notes sent to ME that say “I demand blahblahsuchandsuch” I can’t help but think of this tiny, tiny person shaking a tiny tiny self-important fist.

Tell me, Beav ol’ buddy, are the pretty happy colorful pictures important to you enjoying your reading? I know they are so awfully much fun in the books you get from the library; why, they practically tell the story sometimes! But sometimes, Beav, the pictures on internet boards like this don’t tell the story.

I’m afraid you’ll just have to learn to read like everybody else. I know it’s tricky, but I’m sure you’re bright enough to figure it out one day!

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/69 "2004-10-03T13:56:19Z")

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Think I might read this thread later. Looks funny.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/70 "2004-10-03T14:01:09Z")

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Beaver Cleaver

Fuck off.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/71 "2004-10-03T14:05:27Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> I request the board owner to address the true issue of this thread immediately and give me some answers that I can’t poke full of holes without opening my eyes.

I’ve seen noobs come here and want to be acknowledged by Cecil before, but this takes the cake.

Er, pie.

About the avatar question, the SDMB isn’t about pictures. Your writings will tell people more about you than any image could.

A person actually has to read and comprehend information here. The exchange of thoughts, opinions, ideas and observations of the world around us, is what this place is about.  
If you have a cool avatar, so what, nobody cares.

All that matters is what you say, and how you present it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/72 "2004-10-03T14:28:17Z")

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> [@imthjckaz](#):
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> If you have a cool avatar

There are cool avatars?

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/73 "2004-10-03T14:42:30Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> I dont have time to argue …

Great. Bye-bye. When come back bring … well, actually, don’t come back. While you did post a reasonable question, you posted it in the wrong place and you responded to the good-natured joking posts that followed with immediate hostility. Plenty of “noobs” make themselves welcome on these boards all the time … and you ain’t it. Since you have now come to the conclusion that you don’t have the time for these boards, I want to wish you luck in your endeavors elsewhere. Bye-bye.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/74 "2004-10-03T14:52:47Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> There are cool avatars?

Well that subjective.

It all boils down to a somebody’s personal taste.  
Or lack thereof.

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**Author:** ![Beaver\_Cleaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@Beaver\_Cleaver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beaver_Cleaver)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/75 "2004-10-03T14:56:23Z")

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> [@MisterThyristor](#):
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> What are you, twelve? Avatars are for gaming boards (maybe). Around here we prefer to establish our personna on the basis of our words of wit and wisdom.
> 
> To make your first post a demand for an avatar is the worst way to establish yourself here.
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> (Let me apologize in advance to any 12-year-old Dopers who post at levels far beyond their years – I was speaking in terms of average 12-year olds.)

What are you, invisible? I’m a famous and respected persona on the internet based on my wit and wisdom already and the people who want to see my stuff expect to see my avs, hall of fame titles and sigs! Unlike you oppressed sheeple, I’m not neo-facist cannon fodder! I’m an Independant who’s aware of his fundamental internet rights to stand out from the crowd. Scroling down this thread I see all your subservient names rolling one into the other with no identity because you’ve chosen to accept the “our server isn’t tough enough for avs & sigs” lines that the nazi mods chump you of with while they jam your membership money straight into their pockets! How many members are paying dues around here and getting diddlysquat for it in return? And my first post wasn’t a demand, it was a question, dopey.

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> Because they take up unnecessary bandwidth and server power.

So? I was just told this site had beefed up it’s server! Whoever’s running this board must be an amature, sheesh

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> Because they’re distracting.

What? You can’t think and chew gum at the same time?

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> Because some people think their avatar is more important than the content of their post.

Learn the value of symbolism. Your nazi masters know that and that’s why they keep you down.

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> Because they don’t provide anything useful that a well-composed post couldn’t do twenty times better.

Thats not the point. The point is that if this site wants me to give it 15 bucks a month, what’s in it for me?

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> Because the moderator workload would double (at least) from policing avatars to make sure nobody used explicit and/or copyrighted images.

Yawn! What? You mean they’d have to earn a little of the cash I threw their way? If your mods can’t handle the heat, let me be a mod and I’ll do the job for them!

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> Because the majority of the people here don’t want them.

Who? The puppet majority of sheeple in here? Yeah, and the meek shall inheret, I know I know.

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> Don’t like any of the above reasons? Is the ability to have an avatar your number one priority when checking out a new message board? Then buh-bye, now, and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

HA! It’ll take a hell of a lot more than a marionette like you and the bleating flock of sheeple who’ve been brainwashed by the admin to run me out of town! Millions of others have tried before you including all the nicswitching cowards hiding from me in here. No I’ll stay and open the windows and air out the bad stink of cowardice and sourkraut in here and you’ll be thanking me for it later you sad Moonie!

> [@Roland Orzabal](#):
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> If, on the other hand, you think you can get over the travesty that is the lack of avatars on the SDMB, feel free to stick around. If nothing else, we could use the $14.95 to buy some more of whatever we’re feeding the hamsters lately – it’s working.

When I see my av and sig options up on my profile I’ll give you the cash, not before! Do you think I was born yesterday?

My God you people need me.

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**Author:** ![Beaver\_Cleaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@Beaver\_Cleaver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beaver_Cleaver)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/76 "2004-10-03T14:59:54Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Great. Bye-bye. When come back bring … well, actually, don’t come back. While you did post a reasonable question, you posted it in the wrong place and you responded to the good-natured joking posts that followed with immediate hostility. Plenty of “noobs” make themselves welcome on these boards all the time … and you ain’t it. Since you have now come to the conclusion that you don’t have the time for these boards, I want to wish you luck in your endeavors elsewhere. Bye-bye.

Exactly where have I been hostile, TRANSponder? Link please! You’re just jealous because I have a voice and the stones to bring freedom to this concentration camp while you’r just a giggling yes man on all fours wearing his master’s collar and leash!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/77 "2004-10-03T15:06:22Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> My God you people need me.

Delusional messiah complex. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/78 "2004-10-03T15:06:40Z")

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> [@beaver cleaver](#):
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> What are you, invisible? I’m a famous and respected persona on the internet based on my wit and wisdom already and the people who want to see my stuff expect to see my avs, hall of fame titles and sigs!

Cites?

> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> My God you people need me.

You know what, on second thought the board is full. We don’t need any more members. You can go now.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/79 "2004-10-03T15:06:59Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> What are you, invisible? I’m a famous and respected persona on the internet based on my wit and wisdom already and the people who want to see my stuff expect to see my avs, hall of fame titles and sigs!

Well you’re a nobody here.

And when does the wit and wisdom start?

> [@the Beav](#):
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> My God you people need me.

I don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avatars/267242/80 "2004-10-03T15:17:59Z")

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> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> Exactly where have I been hostile, TRANSponder? Link please! You’re just jealous because I have a voice and the stones to bring freedom to this concentration camp while you’r just a giggling yes man on all fours wearing his master’s collar and leash!

I guess your short-term memory doesn’t work so well. Let me refresh it. Here is your very first response in this thread. I have highlighted insulting, hostile, and combative sections to refresh your memory.

> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> **Thats a bunch of reg bullshit**. **That lame explainantion** might work on the **other tards around here** but not with me. **I post on lots of boards larger than this one and this is the first one that won’t let you put up an avatar and puts line limits on sigs. If the board servers are operating in a constant state of overload then the admin should upgrade to a server than can handle the traffic DUH!**

From your next post:

> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> **I can handle anyhting this board has to deal out, don’t worry. I’m a Hall of Fame poster. If the tards of this site want to ghey up my posts fine. I know they’re all just nicswitching bastards following me around anyway. Why not come out and show yourselves Evil Blood, Mini-Me, Cardtrick and all the rest of the Beaver haters I’ve bitchslapped and beaten! I know you’re here.**
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> How can an upgrade be too recent to know what it can do? **It sounds to me like yourre just trying to keep me down. Either a server can handle the traffic or it can’t! Better server, more functions allowed. Let me test the new server. Give me all the normal functions of a paying member including avs and sigs and I’ll test the board!**

Your next post shows your short-term memory has kicked in …

> [@Beaver Cleaver](#):
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> show me where I called anyone here an asshole! Link please! No I don’t expect you to be polite, **I expect to be given the right to have my avatar and sig put up! And compared to my interenet post counts Mockingbird (or should I say Doomsday) is a n00b!**

The rest of your crap runs along the same lines. Really, if you don’t like this place then fucking LEAVE!!

Let me clue you in on a little something: You ain’t God and the universe does NOT revolve around you. Trust me, just about everyone on this board will be happy to remind you of this. You have been hostile and combative from your second post. If you continue like this you are simply showing that you are DELIBERATELY stirring up shit. In which case you’ll be leaving soon enough, voluntarily or involuntarily.

So why don’t you make life a little easier on yourself and everyone involved and just leave now?

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