# Avengers 4 speculation thread \[Infinity War spoilers\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 13, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364 "2018-04-13T20:42:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/101 "2018-12-07T17:49:32Z")

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“When I drift off I will dream about you. It is always you”, words meant for Pepper but spoken directly to the Iron Man mask.

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/102 "2018-12-07T18:20:25Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> “When I drift off I will dream about you. It is always you”, words meant for Pepper but spoken directly to the Iron Man mask.

I thought about that. He also toyingly poked the mask’s nose twice when he said it, something Pepper would never see. I concluded that he felt Iron Man was over and he was genuinely speaking to her and the mask was just the only available recording device. Poking it in the nose was his attempt to touch her when he felt he would never get the chance to actually touch her again. I’m confident Tony’s been humbled by recent events and doesn’t believe that Iron Man is the only significant other in his life.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/103 "2018-12-07T18:50:28Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Yeah, Feige has said they’ll go in a different direction with Phase 4. So who knows what’s going to happen. Maybe it’ll be more cosmic with Captain Marvel, the Eternals and Adam Warlock interspersed with more personal, smaller things like Spider-Man and Black Widow.
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> All I really want is a She Hulk movie. Is that too much to ask?

Now that Disney owns the X-Men, all bets are off.

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/104 "2018-12-07T19:06:28Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Yeah. Watching the trailer, I’d say that they’re surprised to see Lang because everyone just assumed he was part of the snaptured 50%, since he basically disappeared at the same time…

Interesting thought recently, they are officially calling Thanos’ snap [The Decimation](https://screenrant.com/avengers-infinity-war-thanos-snap-name-decimation/).

So, if only 10% perished instead of 50%, this might mean might mean some more heroes are out there.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/105 "2018-12-07T19:23:19Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Every single new character they’ve added has been just as popular as the originals if not more. The movies are getting more entertaining and more profitable. Besides, I don’t think we are losing any of those except Evans. Hell, Black Widow is up for her stand alone film and Thor 3 was the best of the bunch, and Loki is getting his own show, I doubt they stop there.

Falcon, Vision, and Scarlett Witch all suck. However, they don’t suck more than Hawkeye so I’m not sure if that makes them more or less popular than the originals.

Tony Stark is still the best character by miles.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/106 "2018-12-07T19:30:09Z")

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Well I meant the characters that star in movies.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/107 "2018-12-07T19:39:46Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Well I meant the characters that star in movies.

Yeah, on average the stars have gotten better (except T’Challa, good movie, but stale character). Doubly so given that that Thor became much more interesting in Thor 3 and Infinity War.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/108 "2018-12-07T19:40:38Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> Interesting thought recently, they are officially calling Thanos’ snap [The Decimation](https://screenrant.com/avengers-infinity-war-thanos-snap-name-decimation/).
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> So, if only 10% perished instead of 50%, this might mean might mean some more heroes are out there.

I’m thinking they are using the generic definition of decimation rather the specific 10% meaning. They repeat in the trailer that he wiped out 50%.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/109 "2018-12-07T19:42:53Z")

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Of all life too, not just humans.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/110 "2018-12-07T20:01:27Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Of all life too, not just humans.

What is the definition of life they are using? Did half of all dogs and cats disappear, and what about trees?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/111 "2018-12-07T21:41:28Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> What is the definition of life they are using? Did half of all dogs and cats disappear, and what about trees?

No idea, but Groot certainly disappeared.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/112 "2018-12-07T21:54:25Z")

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I had read that it was sentient life. If it included plant and animal life it would be counterproductive to resetting the consumers/resources ratio.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/113 "2018-12-07T21:57:36Z")

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I think the directors said it was all life, but that doesn’t make any sense at all based on the goals of Thanos, so they probably weren’t thinking when they said that.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/114 "2018-12-07T22:24:00Z")

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Right, if you poof half the animals you are getting rid of the same resources you are trying to save for the unpoofed people. Even worse if you include plants.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/115 "2018-12-07T22:44:17Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Now, considering the release date, when should I start my MCU viewfest if I wanted to watch one movie a week leading up to this?

> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Essentially right now. 147 days. 21 weeks.
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> 20 movies. Plus Captain Marvel in March.
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> Get crackin’.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You can skip the Hulk standalone – that’s the only one I’ve never had any desire to watch again. Even the other weak ones (Thor 1 and 2 and Iron Man 2, IMO) still had several very enjoyable scenes and moments.

I wouldn’t skip any of them. Heck, if you didn’t watch Ang Lee’s [HULK movie](https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/1006-the-successful-failure-of-ang-lees-hulk/), you’d miss a key piece of Eric Bana’s [dialog](https://www.fishpond.com/Books/Hulk-James-Schamus/9780571221271?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=ps&utm_campaign=US) that pretty much foreshadows how Marvel is reconstructing the MCU after Infinity War.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/116 "2018-12-08T00:50:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **Jonathan Chance** :
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> All I really want is a She Hulk movie. Is that too much to ask?

I think that Deadpool has already proven that a snarky, self-aware, fourth-wall-breaking hero can work. So yes, bring in one who’s Protected by the Comics Code Authority.

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**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/117 "2018-12-08T00:53:21Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Right, if you poof half the animals you are getting rid of the same resources you are trying to save for the unpoofed people. Even worse if you include plants.

Well, then that alone is a flawed paradigm on the presenter’s (Marvel’s, or the writers’?) part. Earth alone isn’t split into consumers/resources; the rest of the multiverse probably isn’t either. Lots of herbivores are prey to carnivores and omnivores so cutting half the sentient still cuts a huge percentage of food source for those who remain.

Maybe pointing out the stupid thinking is part of the key to getting Thanos to undo his completed plan? :smack:

Nah. ☹

–G!  
If you were handed seven wishes  
Would you turn your back for more?  
Would you hold on tight to what you had?  
Would you try to change the score?

If you were given back a lifetime  
Would you find some room for me?  
I see you hangin’ on to promises  
that were meant for only me!  
…–Jack Blades (Nightranger)  
…_Seven Wishes_  
…Seven Wishes

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/118 "2018-12-08T01:27:16Z")

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Gotta admit this trailer did not get me as instantly pumped as any of the Infinity War trailers did.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/119 "2018-12-08T02:36:36Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Gotta admit this trailer did not get me as instantly pumped as any of the Infinity War trailers did.

I think it is supposed to be a downer. Wallowing in the sorrow of the loss - before a plucky training/ regrouping montage and the final showdown.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/120 "2018-12-08T02:46:06Z")

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Could he not have…doubled…resources with a snap?

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