# Avengers 4 speculation thread \[Infinity War spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 13, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364 "2018-04-13T20:42:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/121 "2018-12-08T13:02:05Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Could he not have…doubled…resources with a snap? I think the reality stone only works while he’s around. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/122 "2018-12-08T13:18:28Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I think the reality stone only works while he’s around. The most common theory is that you can’t alter reality forever with the gauntlet when creating new stuff… but you can destroy anything and it will stick. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/123 "2018-12-08T14:05:41Z")
Uh, let’s not start to assail the logic of the snap. I mean, cutting the population of sentient beings in half solves the problem of over-population for about, what, a couple generations or so? :dubious: As for the various recent Marvel movies: I hate to say it, but I’ve not been a fan of the Ant Man movies (they are “meh”). Black Panther’s movie was good. I, personally, am not a Guardians fan; I hate that kind of stupidly “comic” comic book tone (it took me a while to appreciate Thor 3 for that reason). And I thought the Spider Man: Homecoming movie was just about three Spider Man movies too far, and much too gimmicky, as a result. I’m sure that Marvel will continue to pump movies out, and I’m sure that they’ll be “blockbusters”. I’m just not sure that they won’t get stale quickly, as the franchise attempts to find a mix of actors that have real staying power. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/124 "2018-12-08T14:47:26Z")
They might be stale with you but you gotta admit your opinions are far from the norm. Guardians specially have been extremely well received. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/125 "2018-12-08T14:47:28Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Uh, let’s not start to assail the logic of the snap. I mean, cutting the population of sentient beings in half solves the problem of over-population for about, what, a couple generations or so? :dubious: > > As for the various recent Marvel movies: > > I hate to say it, but I’ve not been a fan of the Ant Man movies (they are “meh”). Black Panther’s movie was good. I, personally, am not a Guardians fan; I hate that kind of stupidly “comic” comic book tone (it took me a while to appreciate Thor 3 for that reason). And I thought the Spider Man: Homecoming movie was just about three Spider Man movies too far, and much too gimmicky, as a result. I’m sure that Marvel will continue to pump movies out, and I’m sure that they’ll be “blockbusters”. I’m just not sure that they won’t get stale quickly, as the franchise attempts to find a mix of actors that have real staying power. The franchise is ten years old and has a devoted following that rivals any other movie franchise in history. I doubt there’s any danger they’re going to get stale. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/126 "2018-12-08T15:02:34Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Uh, let’s not start to assail the logic of the snap. I mean, cutting the population of sentient beings in half solves the problem of over-population for about, what, a couple generations or so? :dubious: Actually, I heard a theory that says it depends on the technological level of the society. In the west birth rates are already plummeting. With enough technology you don’t have to have 10 kids to work the fields. The notion has come up in the thread about the [world population hitting 11 billion](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=866601). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/127 "2018-12-08T15:20:27Z")
But what will the technological level of a society be after half the population is snapped out of existence? ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/128 "2018-12-09T00:18:45Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Actually, I heard a theory that says it depends on the technological level of the society. In the west birth rates are already plummeting. With enough technology you don’t have to have 10 kids to work the fields. The notion has come up in the thread about the [world population hitting 11 billion](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=866601). Between 1940 and 2000, the population of the United States doubled. But yeah, that’s slower than doubling between 1900 and 1940. Still, 60 years is nothing. Thanos’ snap was a waste of time. Population growth is geometric; we infect the world/galaxy at an outrageous rate. I preferred the comic book rationale for his snap, that he wanted to impress Hela, or some such thing. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/129 "2018-12-09T00:40:15Z")
No, not Hela. She’s just the goddess of death, basically a peer of Thor (albeit a more powerful peer). The personage he was trying to impress was Death herself. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/130 "2018-12-09T00:43:07Z")
But not the cute, [alterna-chick Death](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(DC_Comics)). [Wrong universe.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(Marvel_Comics)) ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/131 "2018-12-09T01:21:49Z")
AK84: > [@](#): > > Could he not have…doubled…resources with a snap? I think he was just stuck in his old mindset. He started out as someone with conventional power, so all he could do was kill, not create. When he found out about the Infinity Stones, he just saw them as a way to do all his killing quickly, not thinking that they might provide alternate answers to the underlying problem. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/132 "2018-12-09T03:33:28Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > But not the cute, [alterna-chick Death](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(DC_Comics)). [Wrong universe.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(Marvel_Comics)) [Not this one, either.](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yrfYubEiNVY/WafgdMfbxkI/AAAAAAAAmzY/z196yy5WRCAwhEdC1emJT_5Rx3CWswW8QCLcBGAs/s1600/Untitled-1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/133 "2018-12-11T10:41:11Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Uh, let’s not start to assail the logic of the snap. I mean, cutting the population of sentient beings in half solves the problem of over-population for about, what, a couple generations or so? :dubious: That begs us to examine the algorithm of the Gauntlet and the Snap. How did anyone know that snapping one’s fingers while wearing the Gauntlet with a full complement of Infinity Stones would kill half of life in the Universe? I don’t believe it was adequately explained in the comic books and I know it wasn’t adequately explained in the movies. Maybe Thanos believed he could snap his fingers unending. All characters in the movie had an infallible belief that Thanos snapping his fingers with all Infinity Stones would destroy half of life in the Universe, but how? Had it been done before? If it had, why had it never been revealed in the movies? If not, how the fuck did anyone know? If Thanos thought he could eliminate half of the life in the Universe with a snap, why would he not think he could continuously do it? There’s too much unexplained for me to think that Thanos didn’t think he could do the same thing repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/134 "2018-12-11T10:45:57Z")
I noticed in the final scene of the trailer, Scott was pointing to a closed, locked gate, asking to be buzzed in. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/135 "2018-12-11T10:50:13Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Could he not have…doubled…resources with a snap? I liked Josh Brolin’s take on it (Colbert interview, paraphrasing from memory): “doubling the resources would have worked as well, but he’s a negative guy, he’s the kind of guy who’d never think of a solution which involves creating things.” > [@Harrington](#): > > That begs us to examine the algorithm of the Gauntlet and the Snap. How did anyone know that snapping one’s fingers while wearing the Gauntlet with a full complement of Infinity Stones would kill half of life in the Universe? The Gauntlet’s function is not “to kill half the life in the Universe” but to allow the wearer to grant Wishes to themselves. Thanos’ Wish was to kill half the life in the Universe. If he’d wished for a rainbow-colored, cologne-peeing flying pony, he would have gotten a rainbow-colored, cologne-peeing flying pony. Thanos hasn’t realized that life has a way of coming back; humanity recovered from disasters such as the Black Plague just fine, and we can assume the same to have happened in many other worlds through the Multiverse. He doesn’t want to do it again because he doesn’t have the imagination to think he’ll need to do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/136 "2018-12-11T10:55:40Z")
OOT: Thanos hasn’t realized that life has a way of coming back; humanity recovered from disasters such as the Black Plague just fine, and we can assume the same to have happened in many other worlds through the Multiverse. He doesn’t want to do it again because he doesn’t have the imagination to think he’ll need to do it again: he truly and sincerely believes that by killing half the Universe he’s solved the Universe’s problems (talk about someone who needs to lay down the absinthe!). ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/137 "2018-12-11T15:47:37Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > OOT: Thanos hasn’t realized that life has a way of coming back; humanity recovered from disasters such as the Black Plague just fine, and we can assume the same to have happened in many other worlds through the Multiverse. He doesn’t want to do it again because he doesn’t have the imagination to think he’ll need to do it again: he truly and sincerely believes that by killing half the Universe he’s solved the Universe’s problems (talk about someone who needs to lay down the absinthe!). When I was watching the movie, I kept hoping someone would point that out to him. Maybe Stark, but it would’ve been awesome to see Peter Parker bring it up. “Are you going to do this again in fifty years, or what?” ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/138 "2018-12-11T16:40:03Z")
> [@Harrington](#): > > That begs us to examine the algorithm of the Gauntlet and the Snap. How did anyone know that snapping one’s fingers while wearing the Gauntlet with a full complement of Infinity Stones would kill half of life in the Universe? I don’t believe it was adequately explained in the comic books and I know it wasn’t adequately explained in the movies. Maybe Thanos believed he could snap his fingers unending. All characters in the movie had an infallible belief that Thanos snapping his fingers with all Infinity Stones would destroy half of life in the Universe, but how? Had it been done before? If it had, why had it never been revealed in the movies? If not, how the fuck did anyone know? If Thanos thought he could eliminate half of the life in the Universe with a snap, why would he not think he could continuously do it? There’s too much unexplained for me to think that Thanos didn’t think he could do the same thing repeatedly. Seems that maybe the dude that created the Gauntlet should have created a failsafe. “Dude - whatever you do, don’t snap your fingers - its got a hell of a kick” ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/139 "2018-12-11T17:28:20Z")
The movie shows that for the Gauntlet to function, Thanos has to close his hand. The Snap is just a way of him closing his hand. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364/140 "2018-12-11T18:31:15Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > The movie shows that for the Gauntlet to function, Thanos has to close his hand. The Snap is just a way of him closing his hand. Everytime he punched someone with it - he closed his hand. The ‘snap’ (IMHO) was more than just closing his hand - it was an overt act that meant something (to the wearer and the magik in the glove) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-4-speculation-thread-infinity-war-spoilers/812364.md?page=8)