# Avengers 5 officially renamed (Avengers: Doomsday) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [July 28, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881 "2024-07-28T03:57:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/201 "2026-07-20T18:42:06Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Wow, that’s an awful lot of characters (and universes!) I am REALLY tired of this multiverse crap. > [@RitterSport](#): > > I watched the trailer and it seems like a confusing mess to me. Yeah, and very dark in most of it. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/202 "2026-07-20T18:47:58Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And quite frankly, Victor von Doom isn’t the same level of threat as Kang or Thanos. Or Galactus, who went out like a mook. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/203 "2026-07-20T19:04:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And quite frankly, Victor von Doom isn’t the same level of threat as Kang or Thanos. The threat that Thor is scared of is probably [an incursion](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary:Incursion), not VvD. That’s what’s from the 2015 _Secret Wars_ comics event. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/204 "2026-07-20T19:51:04Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And quite frankly, Victor von Doom isn’t the same level of threat as Kang or Thanos. But he can be, and has been in several incarnations. As far as I know Kang is still considered to be one of the descendants of Doctor Doom. In his initial outing he found Doom’s time travelling tech, which he used to become Kang. Yes Doom doesn’t have that overall cosmic threat level appearance, but he is a major Threat. The Original Secret Wars has him taking down Galactus and the Beyonder, so at least as far as Kang is concerned he can be that same level, but certainly not at the same level as Thanos. `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/205 "2026-07-20T19:56:56Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > No Spider-Man or Hulk? As you halfway go on to figure, I’d guess the idea is: if they show Tom Holland in the Spider-Man costume with the mask off and a little scar under his eye, people will say, _oh, I guess he survives the movie that’s about to come out, maybe picking up a little scar under one eye in the process._ And so you instead want to build the mystery and pretend that the latest Spider-Man movie has stakes and maybe he dies and anything can happen!!1! ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/206 "2026-07-20T20:02:10Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > No Spider-Man or Hulk? At least for Spider-Man this could be as simple as: Sony said “no” `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/207 "2026-07-20T20:18:53Z")
I kind of surprised myself by not feeling very much at all from that trailer. I think I am getting bored by Marvel (not Spider-Man though. Already have my tickets for that). This opens the same day as Dune I am shocked to say I will almost certainly see Dune first. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/208 "2026-07-20T20:38:03Z")
Well, that was certainly a trailer for a movie. I was unmoved in general, though. Hope it is good. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/209 "2026-07-20T20:49:10Z")
Well, that trailer was…something. Real happy Spiderman wasn’t anywhere to be seen (I can’t stand that character!) I agree with **D\_G** , the threat is likely what he links to, as that is what happened in the comics 11 years ago. It gives Marvel so many options on moving forward it would be silly **not** to use it as a plot driver. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/210 "2026-07-20T21:04:30Z")
The trailer was nothing! I’ve definitely lost interest in the MCU since Endgame; I’ve only watched 5 of the Multiverse Saga movies and 2.5 of the series. I’d be willing to get back into it, catch up on things before this comes out, but that didn’t really give me reason to. Probably something that’s better on the big screen, but I don’t think I’m going to watch a dozen mediocre movies before this is released. Maybe a ton of wikipedia in my future. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/211 "2026-07-20T21:45:46Z")
I just hope the FF find their way back to their own cool, retro-futuristic universe after this is over. The FF could interact with their own Silver Age Avengers, X-Men, Spider-Man, what-have-you in future films. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/212 "2026-07-21T00:08:08Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > The FF could interact with their own Silver Age Avengers, X-Men, Spider-Man, what-have-you in future films. Doctor Strange is still Benedict Cumberbatch, but he squints more! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/213 "2026-07-21T00:18:46Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I kind of surprised myself by not feeling very much at all from that trailer. I think I am getting bored by Marvel (not Spider-Man though. Already have my tickets for that). This opens the same day as Dune I am shocked to say I will almost certainly see Dune first. So, _Dune_ and _Spider-Man_. If Zendaya were confirmed to also be in **this** film, would that pique your interest? 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/214 "2026-07-21T01:12:16Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The threat that Thor is scared of is probably [an incursion](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary:Incursion), not VvD. That’s what’s from the 2015 _Secret Wars_ comics event. As someone who has hated the multiverse idiocy in the last few years of the MCU, this premise makes sense and is possibly interesting. A multiverse ending scenario is exactly what the MCU needs. If it stops the trend toward killing off megazillions of people to keep kicking the stakes upward, all the better. The trailer needed to show a magazillion characters. How could there be room for drama as well? Don’t worry: there will be a megazillion additional trailers by the end of the year and by then all the fanboys will be complaining that they give away too much. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/215 "2026-07-21T14:02:17Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Real happy Spiderman wasn’t anywhere to be seen (I can’t stand that character!) There is like 0% chance he isn’t heavily featured in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/216 "2026-07-21T14:42:12Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > There is like 0% chance he isn’t heavily featured in the movie. And you are basing this on…? `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/217 "2026-07-21T14:43:23Z")
Spiderman is by far the most popular Marvel superhero. There’s no way they’d leave him out. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/218 "2026-07-21T14:45:17Z")
The budget for Tom Holland’s participation has been redirected to Chris Evans. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/219 "2026-07-21T14:46:13Z")
> [@icon](#): > > And you are basing this on…? It’s a Marvel movie. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/220 "2026-07-21T14:50:23Z")
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