# Avengers 5 officially renamed (Avengers: Doomsday) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [July 28, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881 "2024-07-28T03:57:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/281 "2026-07-24T00:12:31Z")
I have not seen it, so I can’t judge, but winning an Oscar is nothing to sneeze at. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/282 "2026-07-24T00:17:08Z")
Personally, I thought she deserved it. Very strong performance. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/283 "2026-07-24T03:11:26Z")
I liked Brie Larson in **Lessons In Chemistry** too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/284 "2026-07-24T06:00:05Z")
And on **The Bear**. Her guest turn as the famous Francie Fak was hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/285 "2026-07-24T08:28:40Z")
I completely forgot about that. You’re right. She _was_ great. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/286 "2026-07-24T12:14:27Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Pretty much; the best-known/most popular Marvel characters among the general audience before the MCU started were likely the X-Men and Spider-Man, and _maybe_ the Hulk. Yeah. Marvel did focus groups and found out that a lot of the potential audience knew so little about Iron Man that they thought he was a robot. [https://www.cbr.com/quesada-reveals-deadpool-directors-role-in-making-iron-man-film/](https://www.cbr.com/quesada-reveals-deadpool-directors-role-in-making-iron-man-film/) > Quesada explained that Marvel conducted focus group research in the early stages of producing the first “Iron Man” feature film, and that the research showed there were serious “awareness issues with the character, especially amongst kids.” Kids didn’t know who Iron Man was and “had no interest in him because they thought he was a robot.” Interest increased noticeably when kids found out there was a person in the armor, which helped Marvel devise a plan to build awareness ahead of the movie’s release. Iron Man was well-known among comics fans, certainly, but that’s not the same as the general public awareness that Spiderman, Batman and Superman had (and which Iron Man now has). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/287 "2026-07-24T13:27:42Z")
Rumors, and I mean very thinly evidence rumors, have begun to swirl around that Secret Wars will be split into two films, part 1 in 2027 and the other…an entire year later in 2028. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/288 "2026-07-24T14:45:33Z")
I first heard about that [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/258). ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/289 "2026-07-24T14:52:08Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Secret Wars will be split into two films, part 1 in 2027 and the other…an entire year later in 2028. Does that mean they are releasing new Avengers movies every year for three years straight? That sounds ridiculously ambitious. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/290 "2026-07-24T15:09:03Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > It’s not like Iron Man was a major property before RDJ made him iconic. I enjoyed the movie but the best part about the movie was RDJ, and not necessarily how awesome Iron Man was as a concept. Brilliant casting but not a sign that MCU could make any random back catalog character into a cinematic winner. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/291 "2026-07-24T16:07:56Z")
Maybe a sign that they could make any random back catalog character into a winner, with the right casting. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/292 "2026-07-24T16:33:01Z")
Challenge accepted. Who could you cast that could even remotely make Jubilee a winner these days, without so totally rewriting her powers and character as to be unrecognizable? 😘 ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/293 "2026-07-24T16:46:20Z")
I always liked Jubilee in the cartoons. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/294 "2026-07-24T16:46:31Z")
Helen Mirren. I have no idea how she’d do it, but I’ll bet she could. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/295 "2026-07-24T16:47:45Z")
I sit corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/296 "2026-07-24T17:03:29Z")
Looks like the name “Trinity Bliss” has been suggested for Jubilee casting. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/297 "2026-07-24T17:06:31Z")
I could see that. The character powers need tweaking if they don’t want her to come off like a female Gambit. Dear Kevin Feige… ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/298 "2026-07-24T18:20:58Z")
I think Jubilee has a dragon and is a vampire this days. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/299 "2026-07-24T18:23:50Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Helen Mirren. I have no idea how she’d do it, but I’ll bet she could. I thought Tilda Swinton was Marvel’s go-to actress for playing Asian characters. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/300 "2026-07-24T18:43:43Z")
Wait, I thought Jubilee was Cajun? Or am I getting her mixed up with a different X-Man? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881.md?page=16)