# Avengers 5 officially renamed (Avengers: Doomsday) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [July 28, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881 "2024-07-28T03:57:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/81 "2024-07-30T15:39:42Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Of course, there’s always the chance Doom might have a friend over for dinner I’d rather watch a time traveling Conan in NYC than another multi-verse mess. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/82 "2024-07-30T15:41:18Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I’d rather watch a time traveling Conan in NYC than another multi-verse mess. Who wouldn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/83 "2024-07-30T15:43:24Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Who wouldn’t? The filmmakers, it would seem. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/84 "2024-07-30T15:45:46Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@Alessan](#): > > > > Of course, there’s always the chance Doom might have a friend over for dinner > > I’d rather watch a time traveling Conan in NYC than another multi-verse mess. The rights history to Conan is a bit convoluted. I think Netflix owns the movie/tv rights now. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/85 "2024-07-30T15:51:59Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The rights history to Conan is a bit convoluted. Maybe they can just call him Fonan\*. That should satisfy the lawyers. \*Fauxnan! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/86 "2024-07-30T17:55:47Z")
I’ve always wanted to see a retcon on the “hot mask” thing so that it was intentional. It’s part of a ritual to give him increased magic powers, and sacrificing his face is the price he pays for that power. “Doom will sacrifice anything for power,” plays much better with his characterization than, “Doom is vain and also stupid.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/87 "2024-07-30T20:34:17Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The rights history to Conan is a bit convoluted. Robert E. Howard died in 1936. Shouldn’t Conan be public domain at this point? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/88 "2024-07-30T20:44:16Z")
Current copyright law is a confusing mess. Apparently, the Howard _stories_ are public domain but the _character_ is still protected until 2027. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/89 "2024-07-30T20:46:16Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Just more TVA multiverse shenanigans. \ Deadpool: Hey, I just got here! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/90 "2024-07-30T20:52:09Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’ve always wanted to see a retcon on the “hot mask” thing so that it was intentional. It’s part of a ritual to give him increased magic powers, and sacrificing his face is the price he pays for that power. See, now **you** should be a writer at Marvel. > [@Smapti](#): > > Shouldn’t Conan be public domain at this point? Last I checked, Conan was Aquaman, so things are _really_ confusing. [![](https://statcdn.fandango.com/MPX/image/NBCU_Fandango/395/430/thumb_4689D7B5-1891-448C-8185-0474979FE1AC.jpg) ](https://statcdn.fandango.com/MPX/image/NBCU_Fandango/395/430/thumb_4689D7B5-1891-448C-8185-0474979FE1AC.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/91 "2024-07-30T21:05:24Z")
The FF movie is a 60s period piece _set in an alternate, retro-futuristic, Tomorrowland-looking universe_. So there’s no conflict with existing lore. Only question is how they’ll end up in the current universe/time. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/92 "2024-07-30T21:13:46Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > Only question is how they’ll end up in the current universe/time. If _Secret Wars_ is based even loosely on [the 2015 crossover event](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Wars_(2015_comic_book)), that should provide a path. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/93 "2024-07-30T21:13:57Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Apparently, the Howard _stories_ are public domain but the _character_ is still protected until 2027. In that case, I’d like to announce that my new novel, Conan & Tarzan Do Vegas, will be hitting shelves on 1/1/28. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/94 "2024-07-30T22:59:16Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’ve always wanted to see a retcon on the “hot mask” thing so that it was intentional. It’s part of a ritual to give him increased magic powers, and sacrificing his face is the price he pays for that power. “Doom will sacrifice anything for power,” plays much better with his characterization than, “Doom is vain and also stupid.” Heh. You know, that could still fit. “To gain power, you could sacrifice your face.” “My perfect handsome face? But I’m vain!” “Uh, it now has a barely-noticeable flaw.” “Then I’ll stupidly declare it’s ruined — so, okay!” “How did you get that tiny scar, anyway?” “I was too vain to correct a stupid math error.” “You could say it really blew up in your face.” “Kind of a recurring theme with me, yeah.” You can of course argue that Doom would never say any of that. But that just raises the question: because he’s too vain to admit it, or too stupid to realize it? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/95 "2024-08-01T03:10:04Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I think the world is ready for Pastepot Pete. Look, if neither version of Daredevil had to go one-on-one against _Stiltman,_ I don’t think we’ve evolved enough to deserve _any_ quirky super-villains. [![](https://static.wixstatic.com/media/fde496_05d55455d86a44eebb146035077df569~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_980,h_1380,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/fde496_05d55455d86a44eebb146035077df569~mv2.jpg) ](https://static.wixstatic.com/media/fde496_05d55455d86a44eebb146035077df569~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_980,h_1380,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/fde496_05d55455d86a44eebb146035077df569~mv2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/96 "2024-08-01T20:20:21Z")
But the villain in The Lego Movie did have stilts like that. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/97 "2024-08-01T23:12:03Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Look, if neither version of Daredevil had to go one-on-one against _Stiltman,_ I don’t think we’ve evolved enough to deserve _any_ quirky super-villains. Stiltman did have an appearance in the _Daredevil_ series on Netflix. Or at least the stilts did. [![](https://external-preview.redd.it/wq3G6ZmyxL4W9-3pm_RyYQGCk_vn7uGNd6nAzu66s3E.jpg?auto=webp&s=b4d8231aead0db0fd585ea80247366f0b6b27b45) ](https://external-preview.redd.it/wq3G6ZmyxL4W9-3pm_RyYQGCk_vn7uGNd6nAzu66s3E.jpg?auto=webp&s=b4d8231aead0db0fd585ea80247366f0b6b27b45) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/98 "2024-08-02T00:51:58Z")
Marvel is very protective of Stiltman. > **[MODOK: Stilt-Man One of Only Characters Marvel Wouldn't Let Hulu Series Use](https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/modok-marvel-wouldnt-let-show-use-stilt-man/)** > > When Marvel's MODOK hits Hulu later this month, it's going to be packed to the brim with cameos \[...\] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/99 "2024-08-02T22:47:53Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Look, if neither version of Daredevil had to go one-on-one against _Stiltman,_ I don’t think we’ve evolved enough to deserve _any_ quirky super-villains. Pft. Stilt-Man is so last week. [Lady Stilt-Man is where its at now.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/2d/Callie_Ryan_%28Earth-616%29_from_Amazing_Spider-Man_Vol_1_611_0001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091218034342) ---
**Author:** ![OldManLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oldmanlogan/32/5237_2.png) [@OldManLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldManLogan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/100 "2026-01-13T14:58:44Z")
Avengers: Doomsday is less than a year away but has been dripping out 1 minute character focused teaser trailers. There have been four so far with the expectation that a full trailer will be released for the Super Bowl. I’ll include links along with the character spoiled. Click at your own risk. Steve Rogers will return [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMg566PREA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMg566PREA) Thor will return [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1clWprLC5Ak](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1clWprLC5Ak) The X-Men will return (including an angry James Marsden Cyclops) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1XlwHQv9o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1XlwHQv9o) Black Panther and Fantastic Four will return [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=399Ez7WHK5s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=399Ez7WHK5s) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881.md?page=6)