# Avengers 5 officially renamed (Avengers: Doomsday) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [July 28, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881 "2024-07-28T03:57:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/121 "2026-01-14T01:46:15Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The point was- other actors have played Captain America and the world didnt end. Yes. In completely unrelated movie franchises from up to eighty years ago. It’s irrelevant to the current discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/122 "2026-01-14T02:10:54Z")
Also, Rhodes and even Hulk are relatively minor characters, compared with Rogers and Stark. It’s easy to replace a minor character. A star, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/123 "2026-01-14T15:00:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@DrDeth](#): > > > > The point was- other actors have played Captain America and the world didnt end. > > Yes. In completely unrelated movie franchises from up to eighty years ago. > > It’s irrelevant to the current discussion. He is technically correct. The best kind of correct. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/124 "2026-01-14T15:41:51Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I suspect that it was, as much as anything else, Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. wanting the freedom to pursue other roles, and step away from the MCU for a while, rather than being a choice made by Marvel/Disney. Also actors are not comic book characters, they age out of the role eventually. The problem wasn’t killing off cap and Iron Man, it was not realizing Endgame WAS the end of the story they told. I understand there is no way they were going to stop milking a franchise that was at that point delivering multiple billion dollar movies per year, but they should have been a lot LOT better prepared for the passing of the torch. That torch is still sitting there in some basement waiting to be passed when whatever crew they got as Avengers now should have already been ready and waiting to step up. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/125 "2026-01-14T15:45:37Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Also actors are not comic book characters, they age out of the role eventually. An excellent point. RDJ is two weeks younger than me; he’ll turn 61 in April. Evans is 44. Filming action movies is a physically challenging thing, even if the actors don’t entirely look their age. > [@DigitalC](#): > > The problem wasn’t killing off cap and Iron Man, it was not realizing Endgame WAS the end of the story they told. Indeed. I was a big fan of the MCU films, through Endgame. The more recent films haven’t had the same appeal to me, and I do think that part of it is that they had an excellent metaplot, and they wrapped it up. (Also, the “multiverse” metaplot of their more recent films and TV shows is, to me, confusing and not as appealing.) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/126 "2026-01-14T16:18:25Z")
Plus that whole thing with Jonathan Majors scuppered the planned Kang The Conqueror arc. And now we have Doom instead. That said, I still very much liked _Loki_ and its treatment of the multiverse concept. I just don’t want it to get out of hand, because that way lies _Crisis on Infinite Earths_ and ain’t nobody got time for that. Yes, I know CoIE was DC. The point stands. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/127 "2026-01-14T22:34:32Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > (Also, the “multiverse” metaplot of their more recent films and TV shows is, to me, confusing and not as appealing.) I completely lost interest when they introduced the whole multiverse thing, because it means that nothing matters any more. There’s a universe where they win. There’s one where they lose. There’s one where they never fight at all. In fact, there’s an infinite number of each. Why should we care what happens, when everything happens? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/128 "2026-01-14T23:04:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Why should we care what happens, when everything happens? “All the Myriad Ways…” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/129 "2026-01-15T00:20:42Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I completely lost interest when they introduced the whole multiverse thing, because it means that nothing matters any more. There’s a universe where they win. There’s one where they lose. There’s one where they never fight at all. In fact, there’s an infinite number of each. Why should we care what happens, when everything happens? Right. I mean there is SOOO much stuff in this “universe”. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/130 "2026-01-15T00:26:53Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > In fact, there’s an infinite number of each. Why should we care what happens, when everything happens? Yeah, I mean I guess there is yet another Thanos out there and another RDJ Tony Stark. In terms of Doom, are they going to go the obvious “Tony Stark Iteration” route where he is a Stark from another dimension? I think they’ve sold it as if they aren’t, but I wonder if lazy minds will prevail and they do go this lame-o route. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/131 "2026-01-15T00:32:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I completely lost interest when they introduced the whole multiverse thing, because it means that nothing matters any more. There’s a universe where they win. There’s one where they lose. There’s one where they never fight at all. In fact, there’s an infinite number of each. Why should we care what happens, when everything happens? If you learned that there was a real multiverse, and there were infinite copies of you, would you stop caring about what happened to you personally? “Eh, so what if I get hit by a car, there’s plenty of universes where I _don’t_ get hit by a car, so I’m just going to walk across this busy highway.” I figure it’s the same thing with multiverse stories. Sure, there’s an infinite number of Peter Parkers out there. That doesn’t mean I can’t get invested in what happens to _this_ Peter Parker. Him knowing there’s an infinite number of himself doesn’t make him any less invested in not getting eaten by the Lizard, I don’t see why it should make _me_ any less invested. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/132 "2026-01-15T01:03:41Z")
My problem with the multiverse is that for a genre that should first and foremost be fun, it’s just too much work for the viewer. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/133 "2026-01-15T01:06:23Z")
Did you all hear that Marvel canceled the Blade movie…finally? I keep saying the same thing. Make Blade 4 with Snipes and set it in the MCU. He already has briefly shown up. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/134 "2026-01-15T01:58:56Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > My problem with the multiverse is that for a genre that should first and foremost be fun, it’s just too much work for the viewer. It worked very well in the Spiderverse movies. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I keep saying the same thing. Make Blade 4 with Snipes and set it in the MCU. He already has briefly shown up. A version of Blade was in the Marvel Zombies cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/135 "2026-01-15T01:59:46Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > He already has briefly shown up. Blade has shown up in the MCU three times already and we still haven’t seen a single vampire. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/136 "2026-01-15T02:04:17Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Blade has shown up in the MCU three times already and we still haven’t seen a single vampire I mean, he’s half! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/137 "2026-01-15T02:17:55Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I mean, he’s half! My math says that makes for 1 1/2 vampires. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/138 "2026-01-16T00:30:38Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Blade has shown up in the MCU three times already and we still haven’t seen a single vampire. Which three films? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/139 "2026-01-16T00:41:47Z")
_Eternals_, _What if…?_ and _Marvel Zombies_. Although he’s not actually on-camera in _Eternals_, and the other two are alt-universe versions of him. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881/140 "2026-01-16T00:47:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Which three films? Eternals as a voice only, Deadpool vs Wolverine and Marvel’s Zombies, which is not technically a film but is part of the MCU. ETA I see Miller already got you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-5-officially-renamed-avengers-doomsday/1004881.md?page=8)