# Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer leaks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201 "2014-10-22T23:21:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/21 "2014-10-23T10:58:43Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The trailer looks good. Dramatic. > > But apparently, it’s still written and directed by Whedon, so we can expect that 3/4ths of the way through, Ultron will put on a fez and do a song and dance number for no particular reason. There is always a reason. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/22 "2014-10-23T11:17:01Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Dude, Ultron is quoting a song from a Disney cartoon\* in the trailer.\* And a creepy version of the song “I’ve got not strings to hold me down” is used through much of the trailer - hey, if you’re gonna make a commercial/brand connection, it doesn’t get much better than Ultron as Bad Pinocchio. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/23 "2014-10-23T11:35:49Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > Yes. Since they’re both Avengers and mutants, both sides have the rights to use the characters. Yeah, it can’t really be that simple as literally everyone has been an Avenger at some point. That argument would allow the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and most of the mutants (including Wolverine) to be in the Avengers movies. Basically, they had a chat and came to an agreement. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/24 "2014-10-23T11:36:31Z")
HULK. BUSTER. That’s all I got. I’m sorry, that Armor is just hype as shit. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/25 "2014-10-23T11:56:18Z")
If there’s something strange in your neighborhood, who ya gonna call? > [@](#): > > HULK. > > BUSTER. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/26 "2014-10-23T13:33:08Z")
Have they introduced Pym yet? I understand a movie is planned, but I have trouble keeping track of all the characters. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/27 "2014-10-23T13:46:12Z")
Nope. The movie Ultron will be one of Tony Stark’s creations instead. Pym will get introduced with the “Antman” movie. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/28 "2014-10-23T14:05:03Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > It’s time Mark Ruffalo got his own Hulk movie. I don’t know how true this is and I have no cite in front of me, but I’ve heard rumors that the plan is to launch Hulk into space at the end of this to get a Planet Hulk movie and to tie in the Guardians of the Galaxy. If that’s true, then I may as well just go to New York and start handing Marvel my money right now. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/29 "2014-10-23T14:16:06Z")
The rumors are, at this point, just wishful thinking on the part of fandom. There have been, to my knowledge, zero leaks indicating that arc from Marvel or Disney. Would be cool, though. ---
**Author:** ![alted315](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cc9497/32.png) [@alted315](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alted315)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/30 "2014-10-23T14:22:45Z")
I’ve seen on nerdist that Avengers 4 will be the Civil War storyline and that Marvell and Sony are in negotiations right now ---
**Author:** ![alted315](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cc9497/32.png) [@alted315](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alted315)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/31 "2014-10-23T14:29:57Z")
excuse me Disney and Sony ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/32 "2014-10-23T14:32:51Z")
Marvel is getting complicated if all the rumors are true. They would have to deal with: Thanos Civil War Planet Hulk plus all the individual movie fall-out stuff, like Bucky, Loki, the “Gifted,” etc., while also folding in Dr. Strange, Antman, Black Panther, Black Widow/Hawkeye,… Somehow, they plan to make it all work, while trying to get Spiderman and the rest back under the Marvel/Disney umbrella. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/33 "2014-10-23T14:33:22Z")
> [@alted315](#): > > I’ve seen on nerdist that Avengers 4 will be the Civil War storyline and that Marvell and Sony are in negotiations right now Actually that’s for _Captain America 3_, and even then it’s just a rumour based on the released fact Iron Man will be in it. i.e. there isn’t a plan for an _Iron Man 4_, but he is returning for _Cap3_. Civil War is not even close to being confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/34 "2014-10-23T14:39:06Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Yeah, it can’t really be that simple as literally everyone has been an Avenger at some point. That argument would allow the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and most of the mutants (including Wolverine) to be in the Avengers movies. > > Basically, they had a chat and came to an agreement. I imagine it going like this… FOX Lawyers: And of course, FOX will have exclusive rights to Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch. MARVEL: We can’t do that. They’re too important to both the X-Men & Avengers. SAY! Why doesn’t FOX purchase the rights to make an Avengers movie too? It would be AWESOME! (FOX lawyers in huddle) Who are they kidding? We’ll see a fucking raccoon with a machine gun before an Avengers movie with these characters. FOX Lawyers: \We’ll pass.\ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/35 "2014-10-23T15:53:05Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I will. > I don’t run out to see every superhero movie, nor every big summer popcorn flick. I _do_ run out to see the Marvel Studios movies precisely because they’ve been well written with a rich tightly interwoven universe that has maintained it’s own consistent reality. Well said, and I agree. Really looking forward to this. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/36 "2014-10-23T16:10:29Z")
Was that Captain America’s shield broken in half at 1:53? Because that’s not supposed to be able to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/37 "2014-10-23T16:17:33Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Was that Captain America’s shield broken in half at 1:53? Because that’s not supposed to be able to happen. Unless you count the give or six times it’s happened in the comics. (The shield got better.) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/38 "2014-10-23T16:24:25Z")
It’s an image that gives everybody an idea just how bad-ass Ultron is, since the destruction is usually the result of cosmic-level forces. [Destruction of the shield.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America%27s_shield#Destruction_of_the_shield) ---
**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/39 "2014-10-23T18:00:03Z")
It’s been a long time since my avengers comic reading days but wasn’t Ultron created by Hank Pym? So why would they insert the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver BEFORE the Wasp and Antman/Yellowjacket? Or are they in this one too? YES, I’m an ultra-nerdy comic purist. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201/40 "2014-10-23T18:23:45Z")
MCU has only a tangental relationship to the 616 Universe. Because they hadn’t gotten Antman introduced yet, Ultron becomes a Stark creation. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are introduced now because the person who wrote and directed Avengers 2 wanted them there. The MCU uses elements of the various Marvel universes, but it is its own separate creation, with its own continuity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-leaks/702201.md?page=3)