# Avengers: Endgame SEEN IT thread - SPOILERS AHOY! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [April 24, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981 "2019-04-24T08:50:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/621 "2019-05-11T15:04:03Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > That was the second scene. The first one was Hawkeye with his family having a picnic, he is showing his daughter how to shoot a bow when the snap happens and they all puff to dust while he is not looking at them. Ah yes, thanks. They were putting mayonnaise on their hotdogs, probably to make Thanos seem more sympathetic 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/622 "2019-05-11T18:59:38Z")
LOL I did miss part of that first scene, for similar reasons. But I got there before the family disappeared, so I don’t think I missed much. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/623 "2019-05-12T00:17:04Z")
I wanted to make a new thread about this but I really couldn’t think of a way to phrase the title that wouldn’t be a major spoiler. Are there any other movies in which a female gets to do a heroic sacrifice over a male? because for as much love (or hate) the big “girl power” scene in the final battle gets Black Widows sacrifice was truly the defining feminist moment of the film. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/624 "2019-05-12T03:20:40Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > I try to time getting to the cinema to the point where I miss all the adverts and the majority of the trailers, which is generally 30 minutes after the published start time. Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever been to a movie where this was longer than 15 minutes or so. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/625 "2019-05-12T03:39:48Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever been to a movie where this was longer than 15 minutes or so. A small digression, in Japan, they always put the actual time when the movie ends (final credits over) and so if you know the runtime of the movie, you can make it to your seat just about when it actually starts. No such luck in the US and tomorrow though I kind of know when I need to pick everyone up after they see End Game (it’s the same theater I watched it in), there is a good chance I will be waiting around or they will. //i\ ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/626 "2019-05-12T08:55:08Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever been to a movie where this was longer than 15 minutes or so. Yeah, it’s ridiculous here, (or at least the 2 major brands in my home town are, can’t speak for all UK cinema brands.) The’rs almost always 10+ minutes of ads followed by 6-7 full length trailers. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/627 "2019-05-12T12:26:05Z")
I had tickets to a 7:15 showing, i checked the time right as the movie got started and it was 7:43 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/628 "2019-05-12T12:31:49Z")
I saw it yesterday. I haven’t read through the rest of the thread yet, but I was rather disappointed. The movie went to great pains to tell us the rules that it was operating under, and then it went and broke those rules. That’s just sloppy. And there were a lot of missed opportunities: Like, we just had a movie with Wakanda saying how it was important to welcome refugees after all, and we’ve got a bunch of refugees arriving on Earth: Why was New Asgard in Scandanavia? Also, [Moderating] I will now be personally attending to reports in this thread with the full scrutiny I’d normally use. My thanks to **Miller** for helping out, meanwhile. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/629 "2019-05-12T12:52:50Z")
At the AMC theaters around here (Louisiana, USA), there are 15-20 minutes of advertising before films … but they are shown BEFORE the listed showtime. So, for a film with a listed start time of 12:00 noon: 11:40 - 12:00: Advertisements 12:00 - 12:02: AMC theaters bumper showing happy moviegoers ordering concessions and settling into their seats. Reminders of exit locations, to turn cellphones off, etc. 12:02 - ~12:17: 5 or 6 trailers. I remember when three was normal. ~12:17: Film starts . ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/630 "2019-05-12T12:54:05Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Why was New Asgard in Scandanavia? Because in _Thor: Ragnarok_, Thor had a vision of Odin standing on hill in Norway and saying, “Asgard isn’t a place, it’s a people. \*This \*could be Asgard.” Plus, it’s the same town where the Asgardians beat the Frost Giants, and where the Red Skull found the Tesseract. The place had a history. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/631 "2019-05-12T13:07:28Z")
> [@icon](#): > > A small digression, in Japan, they always put the actual time when the movie ends (final credits over) and so if you know the runtime of the movie, you can make it to your seat just about when it actually starts. In the Philippines, the published start time is the start time of the actual movie. You can skip all the commercials and trailers if you want. But please do it in a timely manner so as not to disturb the patrons who were seated before you. > [@Chronos](#): > > Why was New Asgard in Scandanavia? Because Asgard was mythological home of the Norse gods. The Norse lived in Scandinavia. Maybe the modern Asgardians found the climate there more to their liking. Maybe the Swedes or Norwegians got a kick out seeing their gods of ancient myth return and offered them refuge. There didn’t seem to be whole lot of Asgardian refugees. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/632 "2019-05-12T14:14:45Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Because Asgard was mythological home of the Norse gods. The Norse lived in Scandinavia. Maybe the modern Asgardians found the climate there more to their liking. Maybe the Swedes or Norwegians got a kick out seeing their gods of ancient myth return and offered them refuge. There didn’t seem to be whole lot of Asgardian refugees. …or maybe it is because Thor prefers [Ringnes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringnes) over Budweiser? //i\ ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/633 "2019-05-12T22:13:45Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > . . . But if I wanted to get nitpicky, I’d go beyond the question of half your colonic bacteria suddenly dying off and ask what about all those mitochondria in the cells; did we lose half of them? They’re more like intracellular bacteria than not! 😃 Now you forced me to google that. According to wikipedia, different cells have different numbers. Red blood cells have none, so they’re fine. Liver cells have 1000–2000 mitochondria per cell, so they’re probably OK. And there has to be some mechanism by which mitochondria know when a cell needs more of them, so they probably rebound fairly quickly. I thought that human sperm cells only had one mitochondrion, but apparently there are “many” wrapped around the central filamentous core, and they power the flagellum. So every mitochondrion dusted from a sperm cell makes that sperm cell a bit less motile. It might, maybe, make conception more difficult for (more googling) maybe a day. Maybe longer. " . . . approximately 120 million sperm daily in a process termed spermatogenesis that takes approximately 64 days in humans. This is equivalent to making about 1200 sperm per heartbeat." If the precursor cells and the sperm cells and the intermediate cells were all depleted of mitochondria, then there could be depressed conception for the time it took for the mitochondria in the precursor cells to sense the need for energy and divide, then for 64 days more. Another question is whether sperm cells, themselves, are considered to be independent organisms. There could be a doubled effect if 50% of all sperm cells disappeared at the same time that 50% of all the mitochondria in the remaining sperm cells went missing. The question is, what kind of mad god is Thanos? The Snap is dependent on his mental construction of what “erasing 50% of all life” actually means. He’s providing the instructions. Does he seem like the kind of maniac who would go after mitochondria and sperm? Or are the piddly, basic, background things not splashy enough to be worth his effort? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/634 "2019-05-12T22:51:46Z")
It doesn’t matter if half of all sperm got snapped out, because those things replenish on a daily basis. You’d have one day of reduced fertility, when a lot of folks would be having a hard time finding partners anyway. Nor would it actually matter if half the eggs were snapped out, because even though the proto-eggs are all present at birth, each woman has enough for many lifespans worth of them, and their maturation is controlled by hormonal cycles, not by the amount of supply left. Half of all gut bacteria dying, though, would at least make everyone pretty sick for a few days, and might kill some of the more vulnerable. And what about the bacteria in the guts of the people who got snapped? Maybe that’s what the dust was: Clouds of liberated _E. coli_, now just blowing on the breeze. That can’t be very sanitary, either. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/635 "2019-05-13T00:14:23Z")
Again, we know plants didn’t get snapped because we saw them not being snapped in the Wakandan forest and the Barton’s farm. But as said, this really doesn’t bear a lot of thought. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/636 "2019-05-13T00:49:15Z")
I fell asleep halfway through and awakened to my youngest son prodding me and telling me the movie was over. I missed all of it. I guess I’m kinda pissed. We saw it in 3-D and I was utterly blown away by the visuals but somehow didn’t make it. Stupid work! ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/637 "2019-05-13T01:33:53Z")
Despite my better judgement I went to see it. I hate movies that rely on computer graphics. It was entertaining enough for the first 2 hrs and 15 minutes. There is no plot after that. If you like well done mindless CG as a substitute for a script then you’re in for a real treat at this point. If you hate well done mindless CG as a substitute for a script then just leave and beat the crowd out of the parking lot. You already got your money’s worth. Spoiler alert, the bad guy dies in the end. Everybody survives except 2 main characters and all is well with the world. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/638 "2019-05-13T01:34:07Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I fell asleep halfway through and awakened to my youngest son prodding me and telling me the movie was over. I missed all of it. I guess I’m kinda pissed. We saw it in 3-D and I was utterly blown away by the visuals but somehow didn’t make it. Stupid work! That’s okay. My date fell asleep during _Star Wars._ It’s now\* A New Hope,\* and she’s now my wife, so I guess we all move on. But _Avengers:Endust_ was even better than I expected. I hope you get to try again (after enough sleep… I took a nap before I went) (and didn’t drink anything for five hours). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/639 "2019-05-13T01:46:02Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Despite my better judgement I went to see it. I hate movies that rely on computer graphics. It was entertaining enough for the first 2 hrs and 15 minutes. There is no plot after that. If you like well done mindless CG as a substitute for a script then you’re in for a real treat at this point. If you hate well done mindless CG as a substitute for a script then just leave and beat the crowd out of the parking lot. You already got your money’s worth. Let me guess. You had to leave early so you could get home in time to not watch television. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981/640 "2019-05-13T02:07:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Let me guess. You had to leave early so you could get home in time to not watch television. I wish. I suffered through the last 45 minutes of it. first 2hrs and 15 minutes were entertaining and that’s longer than your average movie. The last 45 minutes was CG graphics. It could have been chopped up and re-sequenced and nobody would have known the difference. It was just CG for the sake of CG. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-endgame-seen-it-thread-spoilers-ahoy/832981.md?page=33)