# Avengers Trailer!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 11, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309 "2011-10-11T15:40:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/1 "2011-10-11T15:40:58Z")

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It looks pretty damn sweet to me. [Avengers!](http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168594-the-trailer-for-the-avengers-is-here). I put it there since I don’t have Quicktime and am lazy.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/2 "2011-10-11T15:55:27Z")

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Looks OK. I’ll see it since Joss Whedon wrote and directed it.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/3 "2011-10-11T15:57:13Z")

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Looks like Downey will steal the show - which is unsurprising and excellent. Who’s playing Banner though?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/4 "2011-10-11T15:59:00Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Looks like Downey will steal the show - which is unsurprising and excellent. Who’s playing Banner though?

Mark Ruffalo, he of the fun-to-say-name, who looks oddly puffy.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/5 "2011-10-11T15:59:40Z")

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With Lou Ferrigno voicing the Hulk!

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/6 "2011-10-11T16:01:43Z")

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Huh - what happened to Edward Norton? Not interested? It would have been lots of fun to see him & Downey working together.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/7 "2011-10-11T16:03:41Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> and directed it.

I thought the styling looked a bit weak. Joss’ cinematography and actor directing just aren’t top level. At least he didn’t cast it.

His writing is good.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/8 "2011-10-11T16:04:08Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Huh - what happened to Edward Norton? Not interested? It would have been lots of fun to see him & Downey working together.

Agreed, but there was some sort of falling out, dunno what. I seem to remember that he wanted too much creative control?

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/9 "2011-10-11T16:06:09Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I thought the styling looked a bit weak. Joss’ cinematography and actor directing just aren’t top level. At least he didn’t cast it.
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> His writing is good.

I’d agree that Whedon’s not the most visually inventive director out there, but he’s a top notch director of actors.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/10 "2011-10-11T16:07:11Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> With Lou Ferrigno voicing the Hulk!

And not for the first time, mind you. He also voiced the Hulk during the Hulk’s 90s cartoon series.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/11 "2011-10-11T16:12:53Z")

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I would have preferred Jon Favreau to direct, but ah well.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/12 "2011-10-11T16:17:57Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> I’d agree that Whedon’s not the most visually inventive director out there, but he’s a top notch director of actors.

If Serenity isn’t enough proof of Whedon’s visual inventiveness, I don’t know what is.

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/13 "2011-10-11T16:23:18Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> If Serenity isn’t enough proof of Whedon’s visual inventiveness, I don’t know what is.

Heh - see, I actually see “Serenity” as evidence of the contrary (and that’s speaking as someone who considers “Firefly” his favorite science fiction series of all time). “Firefly” itself had some gorgeous visual design, but much of that came from the sets and costuming rather than Whedon’s direction. The look of “Firefly” was a seamless merging of Old West and classical Eastern style, and tended towards warm colors that made everything pop in a really lovely way. “Serenity,” in contrast, favored harsh, cold lighting and incredibly ugly typefaces (including Papyrus for the title, for god’s sake). It stripped away a lot of what made the 'Verse feel unique and real, in favor of a more standard dystopian future.

Also, the spaceship designs in “Firefly” were WAY cooler those in “Serenity.” The _Dortmunder_ is one of my favorite capital ship designs ever, a true city in space. The Operative’s ship, in contrast, just looked like Generic Big Spaceship #3 (With Transformer Action!).

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/14 "2011-10-11T16:27:28Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> If Serenity isn’t enough proof of Whedon’s visual inventiveness, I don’t know what is.

Yaidunno, I think that if you got a bunch of artists and cinematographers up and asked them to rate the **visuals** of the following movies, you’d get something like:

Serenity - 3  
[Solaris](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_(2002_film)) - 9  
Alien - 8  
2001: A Space Oddysey - 10  
Armageddon - 7  
Fifth Element - 8

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/15 "2011-10-11T16:32:11Z")

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For a guy who got his powers from steroids, Captain America was being kinda snooty towards Tony Stark and his suit in the trailer.

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**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/16 "2011-10-11T16:38:47Z")

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Cool

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/17 "2011-10-11T17:03:22Z")

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Looks like a fun ride.

Word in the press about Norton was, Marvel said it was about Norton not playing well with others, Norton (his rep, actually) said it was about money.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/18 "2011-10-11T17:58:43Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Looks like Downey will steal the show - which is unsurprising and excellent.

Perhaps. Or they may have just decided that Robert Downey is better known than Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth so they featured him in the trailer.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/19 "2011-10-11T18:02:10Z")

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Looks neat.

And I fully believe that the issue with Norton was about money…he seems kinda douch-ey that way

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/avengers-trailer/599309/20 "2011-10-11T18:17:02Z")

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Definitely on my list. Although I have heard (with no confirming evidence) that Stark takes a backseat in this movie and is really more of a supporting character, no matter what the trailer seems to indicate.

You know something is up when it’s the _actor_ (Norton) saying he quit over money rather than “artistic differences.” My guess is he really doesn’t play well with others.

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