# Average American college graduate in presidential debate vs. Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 29, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/average-american-college-graduate-in-presidential-debate-vs-trump/767182 "2016-09-29T03:20:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/average-american-college-graduate-in-presidential-debate-vs-trump/767182/21 "2016-09-30T13:08:07Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > If Gary Johnson had Clinton’s staff he’d not only easily beat Trump, but wouldn’t be coming up blank every time someone asks him about something foreign policy related. Maybe he should hire Trump’s staff. I understand he’s been hiring “the best people - seriously, the best!”. I don’t know where he’s keeping them since there’s no evidence of them, but we’ve been assured that he only hires the best people. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/average-american-college-graduate-in-presidential-debate-vs-trump/767182/22 "2016-09-30T13:09:46Z")
We don’t know since they say he’s not taking their advice. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/average-american-college-graduate-in-presidential-debate-vs-trump/767182/23 "2016-10-05T00:23:14Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Were they thinking of John Hanson, who was the first President of the United States in Congress Assembled (Articles of Confederation)? Or of the fourteen presidents of the Continental Congress? Some people overthink things. > > Not that I don’t think it’s possible to find people who just don’t know. Yes, John Hanson. These students all believed/were taught that John Hanson was the 1st President of the United States of America. The conversation followed along the lines of the linked article below. > **[Web Page Under Construction](http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html)** > > Network Solutions - Original domain name registration and reservation services with variety of internet-related business offerings. Quick, dependable and reliable. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/average-american-college-graduate-in-presidential-debate-vs-trump/767182/24 "2016-10-05T09:02:50Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > … Now if the public already knew how ignorant these folks were … None of these guys come up as experts in any particular field, they came up by building the right relationships, meeting the right people. > > Now Clinton’s an outlier, she’s actually that smart and her husband is too. I must say I was laughing at the first quoted paragraph; it was only when I got to the second that I realized you hadn’t taken leave. But I think there are many “outliers” by the time you get to the level of a Governor or U.S. Senator. LBJ-Nixon-Ford-Carter — there are four Presidents in a row that knew their stuff. George Romney had knowledge and most Presidential candidates do; it’s just the outliers (Carson, Trump, GWB, etc.) who are ridiculous. Where I think a Trump would make mincemeat of the average Doper or average college grad is on demeanor and a sort of street smarts! It’s very easy to get flustered, or even lose one’s temper. Hillary managed to smile throughout the Trump torture (or a Benghazi inquisition), yet still stung him with a zinger now and then. It’s performances like that that give me confidence she could be a great President. Similarly, I was pleased with Kaine’s debate performance. Pence turned every question into an opportunity to lie about Hillary, yet Kaine kept his cool. And this sort of _cool_, in interactions with other politicians, foreign leaders and the public, is very important in a leader. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/average-american-college-graduate-in-presidential-debate-vs-trump/767182.md?page=1)