# Aviation fans: Would you watch a documentary series on General Aviation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404 "2016-03-18T16:21:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/1 "2016-03-18T16:21:20Z")
I was watching a couple of hour-long documentary programs the other day; one about the McDonnell Douglas F-15, and the other about the Fairchild A-10. There are or have been several aviation documentary series that focus on military aircraft. There are episodes on transport aircraft like the Boeing 747. Occasionally a series will dip into General Aviation to highlight a business jet like the Gulfstream (or in Donald Trump’s case, a 757 – which is transport category but is used as a bizjet). What I _don’t_ see are any series that focus on ‘little airplanes’. There are plenty of General Aviation airplanes and companies for a series, and IMO they’re just as interesting as the kerosene-burners. _And_ GA airplanes are accessible to the public. Take the Cessna 172 Skyhawk as an example. More of them have been built than any other airplane. Ever. Using the formula typical of the series that focus on the ‘fast-movers’, the show could show a current aircraft and then use archival footage to talk about the development\*. Then it can go into they myriad ways the airplane is and has been used, and its place in the world today. Following the formula, currently-produced airplanes like the Cessna 172 and the Piper PA-28 would end with something like ‘And the venerable airplane is still plying the skies [blahblahblah].’ Planes that are no longer in production would end with something like ‘Though the last Piper J-3 Cub rolled off the assembly lines in 1947, there are thousands of them still flying and virtual clones are being produced.’ With Cessna, Piper, Maule, Beechcraft, Aeronca, Mooney, Ryan, Bellanca, Grumman, Alon, and others, you can have a whole series by focusing on just one airplane from each manufacturer. I’d certainly watch such a series. Would you? - Development example [spoiler]Tagging this for people who aren’t really interested. After WWII airplane manufacturers expected a boom in General Aviation, and there was a lot of competition. Piper brought out the Tri-Pacer in 1952, which had a nose wheel that made it easier to land. Cessna brought out the 172 in 1956. The 172 was the popular 170 model with the main gear moved aft and a nosewheel added. They called it their ‘Land-O-Matic’ undercarriage. The 170 had a round tail, and Cessna was going to put a square tail on the 170C. They never made the 170C, since they but the tricycle landing gear on what would have been the 170C and called it the 172. Over 60 years there has been a lot of development on the Skyhawk, which served/serves in the private flying role, flight instruction, commercial operations, and military operations. And the 172 led Piper to drop the Tri-Pacer in favour of an entirely new design – the Cherokee. Each decade had various social, economic, engineering, and marketing factors that are interesting to people who are into aviation. Piper, Cessna and Beechcraft spearheaded the switch from conventional gear to tricycle gear. And the Alon Ercoupe was designed as an un-stallable airplane that anyone could fly. It didn’t even have rudder pedals. So right there you have an episode of the most popular airplane of all time, and another one about its chief rival. Plus the other airplanes that were coming out after the war.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/2 "2016-03-18T16:39:50Z")
Yes, I would watch one and I do because one already exists. The Aviators is a Canadian lifestyle/documentary series dedicated to a wide range of aviation topics. I have watched all of the existing episodes on Hulu but I am not sure if they are still making more or plan to. It is a good show and basically what you are describing. They sometimes cover military aviation but it is mostly focused on GA. > **[The Aviators: The world's most popular aviation TV show !](https://theaviators.tv/)** > > The Aviators, the world's most popular aviation TV series airing in over 100 countries and worldwide online! > **[The Aviators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aviators_(TV_series)#Episode_guide_.28Season_1.29)** > > The Aviators is a weekly Canadian television docuseries about aviation. Hosted by Anthony Nalli, the program is a behind-the-scenes look at airplanes and the people who fly or work with them. > The series came from a column of aviation stories Nalli was writing, called “Close Calls.” The series premiered on the Global Television Network Saturday, September 4, 2010. It could also be seen on CHEK-TV in Canada and has been distributed to all 356 Public Broadcasting Stations in the United States for ... ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/3 "2016-03-18T17:33:34Z")
I’m so old, I remember when General Aviation was just a Captain! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/4 "2016-03-18T17:38:28Z")
I might watch a show or two, but I don’t think I’d be interested in a whole series. Guess it would depend on how it was done. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/5 "2016-03-18T18:00:13Z")
> [@FairyChatMom](#): > > I might watch a show or two, but I don’t think I’d be interested in a whole series. Guess it would depend on how it was done. Ditto. Didn’t the late Neil Armstrong host such a series back in the '90s? I didn’t have cable back then, but I caught some bits of it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/6 "2016-03-18T20:37:11Z")
They’d have to be doing something interesting. A show about flying from airport to airport in a C172 for those $100 hamburgers, while fun to actually do, would be like watching a show about paint drying. There was a documentary on a while ago about a woman working toward getting her PPL. THAT was interesting to watch. Something like a documentary following the Reno Air Races or anything Burt Rutan is up to would definitely be watchable and qualifies as GA. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/7 "2016-03-18T20:59:48Z")
> [@Dorjan](#): > > They’d have to be doing something interesting. Basically, they would be doing exactly the same things that are being done on the shows about military aircraft; just GA airplanes instead. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/8 "2016-03-22T19:59:08Z")
There was an interesting series about building a small plane called “A Plane Is Born.” Saw a few episodes, but didn’t stick through to the end. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/9 "2016-03-22T21:54:26Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Basically, they would be doing exactly the same things that are being done on the shows about military aircraft; just GA airplanes instead. Like, blowing stuff up? :eek: Awesome! :o ---
**Author:** ![mambocrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@mambocrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mambocrow)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/10 "2016-03-24T06:24:32Z")
I would, if the series focused more on the planes themselves and less on the biographies of the designers and test pilots of those planes (fewer talking heads). ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/11 "2016-03-24T19:53:45Z")
> [@mambocrow](#): > > I would, if the series focused more on the planes themselves and less on the biographies of the designers and test pilots of those planes (fewer talking heads). Interesting. :dubious: Inventors and aviators have always been near the top of my list of heroes, so I wouldn’t be adverse to learning more about them at all. I love airplanes, but you can’t consider them separately from those who put them in the air in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![mambocrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@mambocrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mambocrow)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/12 "2016-03-25T02:13:17Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Interesting. :dubious: > > Inventors and aviators have always been near the top of my list of heroes, so I wouldn’t be adverse to learning more about them at all. > > I love airplanes, but you can’t consider them separately from those who put them in the air in the first place. I wouldn’t advocate eliminating the inventors and aviators entirely, I would just like to see less time spent on them and more time spent on information about the airplanes. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aviation-fans-would-you-watch-a-documentary-series-on-general-aviation/749404/13 "2016-03-25T05:23:56Z")
Have you ever seen “Chasing the Sun,” produced by KCET for PBS? It’s a 4-part series focused on the birth of commercial aviation, not general aviation, so it’s not really about “little airplanes” but you take what you can get, right? I haven’t seen it in a long time, but I remember it being pretty good and at least a welcome change of pace from the glut of military aviation documentaries.