# Awake - Starts Tonight - 03/01/12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 2, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504 "2012-03-02T00:27:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/41 "2012-03-03T20:30:53Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> My only real problem is that no dreams are that perfectly lucid every single time - or at least one dream will have a pink unicorn casually munching on the blue grass in the front yard. I know that would quickly ruin the premise but still…\<snip\>

I think they actually addressed that with one of the psychiatrists - that the dreams were not of the normal variety, that no one has ongoing, serial dreams like that.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/42 "2012-03-03T21:04:38Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I think they actually addressed that with one of the psychiatrists - that the dreams were not of the normal variety, that no one has ongoing, serial dreams like that.

There’s also the whole fact (as stated in Inception) that dreams seem real when you are in them, they only seem strange when you wake up. So if one is a dream, and not a real alternate reality, then what we are seeing is his perception of it. For example, maybe he didn’t really say the Constitution, he was just dreaming that he did and it was just gibberish.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/43 "2012-03-04T01:12:45Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> There’s also the whole fact (as stated in Inception) that dreams seem real when you are in them, they only seem strange when you wake up. So if one is a dream, and not a real alternate reality, then what we are seeing is his perception of it. For example, maybe he didn’t really say the Constitution, he was just dreaming that he did and it was just gibberish.

Another possibility: it seemed like he turned to a random section of it, when no matter where he’d decided to start reading would’ve been that part, as it was a part he knows.

Better thing to try would be to pick up something like a book or a DVD he’s never read/seen before, then pick something else in the other reality, then switch. For instance, if he reads Game of Thrones in the wifeverse and watches Inception in the sonverse, then reads Game of Thrones in the sonverse and its the same and rewatches Inception in the wifeverse and its the same, there’s no way his mind could fake both of those. But they both have to be something he’s never experienced before.

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**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/44 "2012-03-04T03:44:41Z")

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My wife suggested that maybe Det. Britten is the one who is dead.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/45 "2012-03-04T03:48:29Z")

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> [@Drum\_God](#):
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> My wife suggested that maybe Det. Britten is the one who is dead.

Right, and they all died in the plane on LOST(and are in purgatory). I rather doubt the obvious choices are the solution.

And I doubt he’s in coma, either(another suggestion).

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/46 "2012-03-04T13:44:31Z")

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I thought this was really well done. Jury is still out if it can sustain a series but I will watch again. My hope is they resist the urge to make this science fiction. I would rather there never be an explanation and what is happening just is.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/47 "2012-03-04T23:15:07Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Right, and they all died in the plane on LOST(and are in purgatory). I rather doubt the obvious choices are the solution.
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> And I doubt he’s in coma, either(another suggestion).

Oh… maybe he’s a spaceman on a mission to another planet and his suspended animation program has gone wonky! :smack:

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/48 "2012-03-05T03:04:19Z")

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Wow, so many possibilities, and yet, you know if and when the writers reveal the truth it will probably disappointing.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/49 "2012-03-05T03:14:52Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> Wow, so many possibilities, and yet, you know if and when the writers reveal the truth it will probably disappointing.

I agree. That is why I hope they never do.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/50 "2012-03-05T03:23:17Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I agree. That is why I hope they never do.

They probably will. Not saying I agree with it, but they probably will. They’ve already laid the groundwork with the clue of his BAC at the time of the crash when he swears he hadn’t had anything to drink, meaning something happened beyond what he realizes. The series has to grow in some direction and creating a larger story arc of a mystery/conspiracy behind the accident (that may not be an accident) is one way to go.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/51 "2012-03-05T03:24:00Z")

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Yeah. Better to keep us guessing. _Groundhog Day_ wouldn’t have been nearly as good if we really knew why Phil kept repeating that day.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/52 "2012-03-05T04:58:27Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I thought this was really well done. Jury is still out if it can sustain a series but I will watch again. My hope is they resist the urge to make this science fiction. I would rather there never be an explanation and what is happening just is.

I’d rather there be a scifi, fantasy, or supernatural explanation than an imaginable one (dream/coma/mental illness).

But I agree that the situation doesn’t necessarily need a “how” resolution.

But it will eventually need some sort of series spanding resolution of some sort. What overreaching storyline would you have the series address?

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/53 "2012-03-05T05:05:58Z")

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the hook is that he is living in a dual world, there is no need to explain how the Stargate works, just give us the adventures surrounding it. no explanation will be satisfactory.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/54 "2012-03-05T05:43:21Z")

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This series reminds me strongly of the BBC show _Life on Mars_ with John Simm. He’s in a comma and living this life that intersects with his old real life.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/55 "2012-03-05T05:50:43Z")

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Well, I guess it beats being in a colon.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/56 "2012-03-05T06:25:35Z")

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Can’t wait until he takes the tennis coach for a romantic visit to Exclamation Point.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/57 "2012-03-05T06:31:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Can’t wait until he takes the tennis coach for a romantic visit to Exclamation Point.

Well, unless she’s on her period.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/58 "2012-03-05T06:36:34Z")

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Then they can just sit and talk tilde sun comes up.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/59 "2012-03-05T06:53:19Z")

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nah, they could just dash off to the nearest motel and show him her asterisks instead.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awake-starts-tonight-03-01-12/614504/60 "2012-03-05T09:01:06Z")

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Unless her parenthesis object.

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