# Awards Season 2007-8

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 16, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170 "2007-12-16T06:06:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/1 "2007-12-16T06:06:58Z")

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Instead of starting new threads for each awards thingy, I thought I’d make this one to encompass them all.

Here are links to my web pages that keep track of the Guild and non-Guild awards. I won’t always be able to update them immediately after the nominations/winners are announced, but they’ll be updated within a day. For people who like to keep track of what’s nominated for what, or what’s winning what, these should be helpful.

[Non-Guild Awards tally page](http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/guilds/AwardsSeason_2007-8.html)

[Guild Awards tally front page](http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/guilds/)

There’s even music for you to listen to while you browse (of course…but don’t worry, it doesn’t start automatically, you have double-click one of the songs before they’ll then play in order).

The most recent addition to the non-Guild list are the nominations for the Golden Globes, which I’ll list in the next post. The first Guild nominations won’t happen until Thursday, when the Screen Actors Guild nominations come out.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/2 "2007-12-16T06:17:56Z")

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The Golden Globe nominees  
\*\*BEST MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA \*\*  
American Gangster  
Atonement  
Eastern Promises  
The Great Debaters  
Michael Clayton  
No Country for Old Men  
There Will Be Blood

**BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA**  
George Clooney - Michael Clayton  
Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood  
James McAvoy - Atonement  
Viggo Mortensen - Eastern Promises  
Denzel Washington - American Gangster

**BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA**  
Cate Blanchett - Elizabeth: The Golden Age  
Julie Christie - Away from Her  
Jodie Foster - The Brave One  
Angelina Jolie - A Mighty Heart  
Keira Knightley - Atonement

**BEST MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY**  
Across the Universe  
Charlie Wilson’s War  
Hairspray  
Juno  
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street

**BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY**  
Johnny Depp - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street  
Ryan Gosling - Lars and the Real Girl  
Tom Hanks - Charlie Wilson’s War  
Philip Seymour Hoffman - The Savages  
John C. Reilly - Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story

**BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY**  
Amy Adams - Enchanted  
Nikki Blonsky - Hairspray  
Helena Bonham Carter - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street  
Marion Cotillard - Môme, La (La Vie En Rose)  
Ellen Page - Juno

**BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM**  
4 luni, 3 saptamani si 2 zile (4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days)  
Scaphandre et le papillon, Le (The Diving Bell And The Butterfly)  
The Kite Runner  
Se, jie (Lust, Caution)  
Persepolis

**BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE IN A MOTION PICTURE**  
Cate Blanchett - I’m Not There  
Julia Roberts - Charlie Wilson’s War  
Saoirse Ronan - Atonement  
Amy Ryan - Gone Baby Gone  
Tilda Swinton - Michael Clayton

**BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE IN A MOTION PICTURE**  
Casey Affleck - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford  
Javier Bardem - No Country for Old Men  
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Charlie Wilson’s War  
John Travolta - Hairspray  
Tom Wilkinson - Michael Clayton

**BEST DIRECTOR - MOTION PICTURE**  
Tim Burton - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street  
Ethan Coen, Joel Coen - No Country for Old Men  
Julian Schnabel - Scaphandre et le papillon, Le (The Diving Bell And The Butterfly)  
Ridley Scott - American Gangster  
Joe Wright - Atonement

**BEST SCREENPLAY - MOTION PICTURE**  
Atonement - Christopher Hampton  
Charlie Wilson’s War - Aaron Sorkin  
Scaphandre et le papillon, Le (The Diving Bell And The Butterfly) - Ronald Harwood  
Juno - Diablo Cody  
No Country for Old Men - Joel Coen, Ethan Coen

**BEST ORIGINAL SCORE - MOTION PICTURE**  
Grace Is Gone - Composed by Clint Eastwood  
The Kite Runner - Composed by Alberto Iglesias  
Atonement - Composed by Dario Marianelli  
Eastern Promises - Composed by Howard Shore  
Into The Wild - Composed by Eddie Vedder, Michael Brook, Kaki King

**BEST ORIGINAL SONG - MOTION PICTURE**  
“Despedida” – Love In The Time Of Cholera  
Music By: Shakira and Antonio Pinto  
Lyrics By: Shakira

“Grace Is Gone” – Grace Is Gone  
Music By: Clint Eastwood  
Lyrics By: Carole Bayer Sager

“Guaranteed” – Into The Wild  
Music & Lyrics By: Eddie Vedder

“That’s How You Know” – Enchanted  
Music By: Alan Menken  
Lyrics By: Stephen Schwartz

“Walk Hard” – Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story  
Music & Lyrics By: Jake Kasdan, John C. Reilly, Marshall Crenshaw and Judd Apatow

**BEST ANIMATED FILM**  
Bee Movie  
Ratatoullie  
The Simpsons Movie

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/3 "2007-12-17T18:34:14Z")

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Thanks, Equi. I posted a few award blurbs in other threads, but this is a good springboard. A few other mentions:

[The eligible songs for this year’s Oscars.](http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2007/07.12.12.html)

The documentaries in contention for the Oscars, both in the [Feature](http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2007/07.11.19.html) and [Short](http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2007/07.10.11.html) categories.

The films in contention for the [Animated Feature](http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2007/07.11.08a.html) Oscar.

And of course, the list of the 63 countries vying for the [Foreign Language Film Oscar](http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2007/07.10.17a.html) (along with the submitted titles).

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/4 "2007-12-17T18:37:33Z")

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Oh, and of course–one Honorary Oscar has already been announed, for [Production Designer Robert Boyle](http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2007/07.12.12a.html), perhaps most famous for the Mt. Rushmore set for _North by Northwest_. He had been nominated 4 previous times but never won.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/5 "2007-12-17T18:44:57Z")

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Thanks for those Archive Guy. Here’s a bit about the [Special Effects contenders](http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=awardcentral&jump=news&articleid=VR1117977801).

> [@](#):
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> The Motion Picture Academy’s visual effects branch made an unprecedented statement in support of visual effects in animated films as it narrowed the contenders for the vfx Oscar to 15 films that will be considered for the January “bake-off.”
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> The Acad included “Ratatouille” and “Beowulf” over such effects-heavy live-action pics as “Enchanted” and “Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.”
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> The entire list of 15, in alphabetical order, is: “Beowulf,” “The Bourne Ultimatum,” “Evan Almighty,” “The Golden Compass,” “Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix,” “I Am Legend,” “Live Free Or Die Hard,” “National Treasure: Book Of Secrets,” “Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World’s End,” “Ratatouille,” “Spider-Man 3,” “Sunshine,” “300,” “Transformers,” and “The Water Horse.”
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> The Academy instituted the short list this year so that its vfx branch could see all the contending films before selecting the seven that will compete in the bake-off. Three of those seven will receive nominations.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/6 "2007-12-17T18:53:17Z")

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Not to nitpick the press release, but it’s not totally unprecedented: One of the 3 VFX finalists on the 1993 Oscar ballot was the animated _The Nightmare Before Christmas_.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/7 "2007-12-17T19:25:48Z")

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You’re right. Someone didn’t check their facts.

I added several things to my non-Guild page since I first posted. Just today the Golden Satellite winners, the Southeastern Film Critics Association, the AFI winners and the Dallas-Fort Worth Film Critics winners were added.

This link is a week old, but I just saw it today. Keeping my fingers crossed that the link will stay good for a while, it’s a [Time magazine story](http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1693300,00.html) about how all the nominees and winners of these critics and other awards are obscure movies that no one has ever heard of.

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> I sprinted down the corridors of TIME this afternoon, eager to spread the news of the New York Film Critics Circle voting for the year’s best films. The winner, in the film, director, screenplay and supporting actor categories? The Coen brothers’ **No Country for Old Men** , which three different people told me they’d been meaning to see. The runner-up, with wins for best actor and cinematographer? **There Will Be Blood** , an audience-punishing epic that doesn’t open for another two weeks. Best actress? Julie Christie, in **Away From Her** , which earned less than $5 million in its North American release.
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> I didn’t even tell them that the very popular, and very good, Pixar cartoon **Ratatouille** lost out to a French movie about the troubles in Iran. (Though **Persepolis** , take my word for it, is funny.)
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> …
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> In the past five days, five groups — the National Board of Review, the Boston Society of Film Critics, the Los Angeles Film Critics Association, the Washington. D.C. Film Critics Association and my crowd, the New Yorkers — have convened to choose the most notable movies and moviemakers. **No Country** was named best picture in four of the groups, **There Will Be Blood** in L.A. George Clooney won two best actor awards for playing a lawyer at crisis point in **Michael Clayton** ; Daniel Day-Lewis a pair for his oil mogul in **There Will Be Blood** ; and, in Boston, Frank Langella won the prize for playing an aged novelist in **Starting Out in the Evening**. Three groups selected Julie Christie as best actress — she’s an Alzheimer’s patient in the Canadian film **Away From Her** — and two liked Marion Cotillard as Edith Piaf in **La Vie en rose**.

I can see the point that these movies are hardly blockbusters, but the best movies and performances of the year SHOULD be awarded, not the most popular. Sometimes the two line up, but rarely.

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> …You might think the highest-rated Oscar telecasts are in years when there’s a close contest in the major categories, as with **Crash** and **Brokeback Mountain** two years. Nuh-uh. It’s the runaway years, when billion-dollar blockbusters like **Titanic** and **The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King** get what are essentially People’s Choice awards, and its makers wear a path in the rug from their seats to the stage. Moviegoers who are TV viewers don’t want horse races; they want coronations — validations that somebody in Hollywood is ready to honor the movies they love.
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> That won’t happen this year. If the Oscars follow the critics’ prizes, there won’t be a hit film among them — not even the hits that reviewers loved. Disney’s megahit comedy **Enchanted** has the highest rating on Rotten Tomatoes, the critics’ polling site, but I barely heard the film mentioned at the New York voting today. Dozens of scribes raved about the smash comedies **Knocked Up** and **Superbad** , but neither film has won a critics’ prize. The comedy they love now is **Juno** , which came out last week.
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> …

Popularity shouldn’t be the criteria…there’s ALREADY a Peoples Choice Awards. I count myself lucky in that not only have I heard of all of the movies, I’ve seen or shortly will see most of them. I’m lucky enough to live where I can do that. If I lived in a smaller town I wouldn’t be able to see a fraction of these until they were available on Netflix. I wouldn’t want a movie to be overlooked for awards just because I couldn’t see it until it’s on DVD.

Good movies are good movies, doesn’t matter if they’re seen by 1000 people or 50,000.000 people.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/8 "2007-12-17T21:40:22Z")

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Here’s a link to the thread I tried to start on this subject recently -

> **[Film fans – How do you feel about movie awards?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447702)**
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> Well the season of various Critics Awards, Golden Globes and a multitude of other pre-Oscar cinema awards is upon us. I’d like your general feedback/feelings about these. Are there any award-givers you particularly respect? Disrespect? Are there...

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/9 "2007-12-19T12:32:02Z")

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I updated my [non-Guild Awards](http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/guilds/AwardsSeason_2007-8.html) page to add a bunch of new Critics awards and nominations.

[QUOTE=well he’s back]  
Here’s a link to the thread I tried to start on this subject recently -  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447702](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447702)  
[/QUOTE]  
I saw that link briefly and kinda meant to go back to it but it disappeared and I didn’t go looking for it. It just has the air of negativity to me. Some from you, then more from the people who posted after you, and I saw no need to defend awards shows and why I love them. I don’t really care what other people think. I’m an awards geek. I have been since I was a little kid and the Oscars were just about the biggest event of the year. I used to collect TV Guides with Oscar info (Best Actress on the left, Best Actor on the right) even though I’d generally never heard of most of the movies myself, living on a farm in Kansas. There have been years I wasn’t into movies at all but I still watched the show. In fact, I can tell you exactly where I was and what I was doing the two times in my life (since I was a toddler) that I _missed_ the Academy Awards. They’re a part of my DNA and always will be.

It’s only been in the last several years that I’ve been more likely than not to have seen most if not all of the nominees before or immediately after the nominations (whereas in the years I wasn’t much into movies…boy those were depressing years…I missed seeing lots of Best Picture winners. I still have not seen Braveheart or Schindlers List). Now that I’m seeing the movies that are in contention and being talked about, being nominated and sometimes winning, it’s even more interesting to me. I saw the awesome **The Diving Bell and the Butterfly** last night, now I’m REALLY interested in seeing it do well, which it is. I’ve seen the delightful **Juno** twice now, and I’m loving the screenplay awards it’s getting and the talk of Ellen Page getting a Best Actress nomination at the Oscars.

I can understand not being into awards because favorites are not awarded, but I’ve learned to live with it. Not everything I love does well. **Across The Universe** , my favorite movie of the year, has only gotten a few minor mentions and is not in contention for anything major. I saw an excellent film the other night, **The Savages** , and do NOT understand why Laura Linney and Philip Seymour Hoffman aren’t getting more attention for their roles (and Philip Bosco too). Other favorites of the year, such as **Black Snake Moan** and **Black Book** , are pretty much being ignored. So, I have to take the good news with the bad news and just be happy for all the nominees. I like keeping track of the Critics awards because some of those films/performances are getting mentioned here and there, and that brings me to the primary reason I love awards.

**To my mind, critics awards and awards shows are most useful for one main reason: they bring attention to lesser-known films and actors. For that alone, they’re very important and don’t deserve the scorn sometimes leveled at them.**

Each to their own though. As I said, I don’t care what people think of awards and award shows. Some people are into Lost. Some people collect baseball cards. Some people memorize French sonnets. I’m a film and awards junkie.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/10 "2007-12-19T16:27:25Z")

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For me, **Across the Universe** is a ninety minute movie in the body of a 131 minute movie. Overall I liked it but it could definitely use some editing. Just my opinion.

Although **Ratatouille** seems to be a lock for animated feature, a friend of mine saw **Persepolis** at Cannes earlier this year and said it was amazing. I’d love to see it get some love. The rest of the list seems to be filled with every major animated movie released this year…I would’ve expected there to have been more than that.

I’m excited for the Oscars this year b/c if the right films get nominated, a lot of the categories will be loaded with worthy films. A lot of strong films this year.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/11 "2007-12-19T16:54:42Z")

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[QUOTE=drm]  
Although **Ratatouille** seems to be a lock for animated feature, a friend of mine saw **Persepolis** at Cannes earlier this year and said it was amazing. I’d love to see it get some love. The rest of the list seems to be filled with every major animated movie released this year…I would’ve expected there to have been more than that.  
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**Persepolis** will definitely get nominated for the Animated Film Academy Award. It could win, though I’d expect **Ratatouille** to get the Oscar. Still, it’s been trading wins with **Ratatouille** at the Critics and other awards, so even though **Ratatouille** is ahead, it’s obvious **Persepolis** is well-loved, and a serious threat. Nothing else is a threat.

[QUOTE=drm]  
I’m excited for the Oscars this year b/c if the right films get nominated, a lot of the categories will be loaded with worthy films.  
[/QUOTE]  
_Laugh_ Your list of the “right” films might be very different from someone else’s list. What might be right to you might be totally wrong to someone else. That’s what’s so fun (to me) about seeing all the different awards results. They don’t all always agree. What’s right and wrong to you?

[QUOTE=drm]  
A lot of strong films this year.  
[/QUOTE]  
I agree 100%, this has been a great year for movies. All the categories are packed with potential, so it makes me roll my eyes when I hear someone say “it was a weak year.” In what universe?

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/12 "2007-12-19T17:24:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
_Laugh_ Your list of the “right” films might be very different from someone else’s list. What might be right to you might be totally wrong to someone else. That’s what’s so fun (to me) about seeing all the different awards results. They don’t all always agree. What’s right and wrong to you?  
[/QUOTE]

You’re absolutely right, but at some point it would just make things easier on everybody and defer to me. I had a few things in mind, such as No Country for Old men in the sound design category and Tom Wilkinson and Bardem for Best Supporting Actor. I’d also like to see Jesse James in the Cinematography Category (along with No Country, but I’m not sure about the rules; can Roger Deakins be nominated twice in the same category? You can for sound).

In my head I have a list of movies that should be in contention for various awards and I will also have about 10 or twelve Locks (by the time the awards are out, I’ll have seen There Will Be Blood - I suspect Daniel Day Lewis will be a lock). It’d be cool for a year if the Oscars and my lists coincide. They do every once in a while…

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/13 "2007-12-19T17:41:32Z")

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ETA: _smile_ at the “defer to me” quip.

I’m right there with you in all of your choices. I think they will all be nominated too. I predict No Country For Old Men will be nominated for Best Film, Director(s, since both Ethan and Joel can be nominated), Best Supporting Actor (Bardem), Adapted Screenplay, Cinematography, and Sound. Other nominations are possible but I would be shocked if those particular ones didn’t happen.

I think it’s very possible that Roger Deakins will get two nominations, for No Country and Jesse James, which yes, is permissible. For some reason it’s only the acting categories that disallow the same nominee for different films in the same category (if that confuses anybody, I mean that Cate Blanchett can be nominated in the Best Actress category for Elizabeth: The Golden Age AND Best Supporting Actress for I’m Not There, but, to use an example from last year, Leonardo DiCaprio could NOT be nominated Best Actor for both Blood Diamond AND The Departed).

I also believe Tom Wilkinson will be nominated (as will George and Tilda and the film and the director and the writing), and I would be shocked if Daniel Day-Lewis isn’t nominated too.

I’ll bet you’ll be pretty happy with the Academy Awards nomination list. I will too.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/14 "2007-12-19T19:24:59Z")

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[More news](http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/12/no_waiver_for_a.php) (not good) on the WGA strike and the awards season:

> [@](#):
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> Just to be clear: while the Writers Guild of America West announced Monday it has blocked the Hollywood Foreign Press Association from using guild writers on its Golden Globes award show next month, and said “no” to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences about using current and historical film clips on its Academy Awards broadcast, the Academy has for whatever reason not requested a waiver for using guild writers on the 2.24.08 Oscar show.
> 
> They should spare themselves the effort. In a 12.19 N.Y. Times story on the matter by David Carr and Michael Ceiply, it is reported that WGA chiefs directors have "already decided they [will] not grant a waiver for writers, including the prospective host Jon Stewart, to work on the show.
> 
> A guild spokesman told the Times on Tuesday that "the union planned to have picket lines around the Globes ceremony in Beverly Hills, Calif., set for broadcast on 1.13.08 on NBC, potentially leading to empty seats where there should be Hollywood royalty. He said the union had not yet decided whether to picket the Oscars.
> 
> “With those moves, Hollywood’s most cherished movie awards shows could lose much of their star power, viewers, advertising revenue and cachet,” the Times story explains. "Suddenly, the film industry is looking at its first real damage from a six-week-old writers’ strike that has mostly been chewing up the television schedule.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awards-season-2007-8/430170/15 "2007-12-19T19:32:29Z")

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As big of an Awards show junkie as I am, I also support the Writers Guild 100%, so I’m happy with whatever will work for the WGA. As long as nominations will still be announced and winners will still be announced, that’s all I care about. I hate that non-writers are and will be hurting, but it can’t be helped. The writers are right, and damned the Hollywood studios and producers who are fighting them.

I want my awards shows, and clips are my favorite parts of awards shows, but not at the expense of the writers. If the shows happen, and there’s a picket line, I will have far less respect for anyone who crosses it.

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The bright side of course (as a WGA-supporter, too) is that the Oscars could well be the shortest ceremony in 40 years!

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[Screen Actors Guild nominations](http://www.sagawards.org/PR_071220)

\*\*MOTION PICTURES \*\*

**Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Leading Role**

GEORGE CLOONEY / Michael Clayton – “Michael Clayton” (Warner Bros. Pictures)  
DANIEL DAY-LEWIS / Daniel Plainview – “There Will Be Blood” (Paramount Vantage)  
RYAN GOSLING / Lars Lindstrom – “Lars And The Real Girl” (Sidney Kimmel Entertainment)  
EMILE HIRSCH / Christopher McCandless– “Into The Wild” (Paramount Vantage)  
VIGGO MORTENSEN / Nikolai – “Eastern Promises” (Focus Features)

**Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role**

CATE BLANCHETT / Queen Elizabeth I – “Elizabeth: The Golden Age” (Universal Pictures)  
JULIE CHRISTIE / Fiona – “Away From Her” (Lionsgate)  
MARION COTILLARD / Edith Piaf – “La Vie En Rose” (Picturehouse)  
ANGELINA JOLIE / Mariane Pearl – “A Mighty Heart” (Paramount Vantage)  
ELLEN PAGE / Juno MacGuff – “Juno” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)  
**Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Supporting Role**

CASEY AFFLECK / Robert Ford – “The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford” (Warner Bros. Pictures)  
JAVIER BARDEM / Anton Chigurh – “No Country For Old Men” (Miramax Films)  
HAL HOLBROOK / Ron Franz – “Into The Wild” (Paramount Vantage)  
TOMMY LEE JONES / Ed Tom Bell – “No Country For Old Men” (Miramax Films)  
TOM WILKINSON / Arthur Edens – “Michael Clayton” (Warner Bros. Pictures)  
**Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Supporting Role**

CATE BLANCHETT / Jude – “I’m Not There” (The Weinstein Company)  
RUBY DEE / Mama Lucas – “American Gangster” (Universal Pictures)  
CATHERINE KEENER / Jan Burres – “Into The Wild” (Paramount Vantage)  
AMY RYAN / Helene McCready – “Gone Baby Gone” (Miramax Films)  
TILDA SWINTON / Karen Crowder – “Michael Clayton” (Warner Bros. Pictures)  
**ENSEMBLE CAST**

_3:10 TO YUMA_ (Lionsgate)

CHRISTIAN BALE / Dan Evans  
RUSSELL CROWE / Ben Wade  
PETER FONDA / Byron McElroy  
GRETCHEN MOL / Alice Evans  
DALLAS ROBERTS / Grayson Butterfield  
VINESSA SHAW / Emmy Roberts  
BEN FOSTER / Charlie Prince  
ALAN TUDYK / Doc Potter  
LOGAN LERMAN / Will Evans  
_AMERICAN GANGSTER_ (Universal Pictures)

ARMAND ASSANTE / Dominic Cattano  
JOSH BROLIN / Detective Trupo  
RUSSELL CROWE / Richie Roberts  
RUBY DEE / Mama Lucas  
CHIWETEL EJIOFOR / Huey Lucas  
IDRIS ELBA / Tango  
CUBA GOODING, JR. / Nicky Barnes  
CARLA GUGINO / Laurie Roberts  
JOHN HAWKES / Freddie Spearman  
TED LEVINE / Lou Toback  
JOE MORTON / Charlie Williams  
LYMARI NADAL / Eva  
JOHN ORTIZ / Javier J. Rivera  
RZA / Moses Jones  
YUL VAZQUEZ / Alfonse Abruzzo  
DENZEL WASHINGTON / Frank Lucas  
_HAIRSPRAY_ (New Line Cinema)

NIKKI BLONSKY / Tracy Turnblad  
AMANDA BYNES / Penny Pingleton  
PAUL DOOLEY / Mr. Spritzer  
ZAC EFRON / Link Larkin  
ALLISON JANNEY / Prudy Pingleton  
ELIJAH KELLEY / Seaweed  
JAMES MARSDEN / Corny Collins  
MICHELLE PFEIFFER / Velma Von Tussle  
QUEEN LATIFAH / Motormouth Maybelle  
BRITTANY SNOW / Amber Von Tussle  
JERRY STILLER / Mr. French  
JOHN TRAVOLTA / Edna Turnblad  
CHRISTOPHER WALKEN / Wilbur Turnblad  
_INTO THE WILD_ (Paramount Vantage)

BRIAN DIERKER / Rainey  
MARCIA GAY HARDEN / Billie McCandless  
EMILE HIRSCH / Chris McCandless  
HAL HOLBROOK / Ron Franz  
WILLIAM HURT / Walt McCandless  
CATHERINE KEENER / Jan Burres  
JENA MALONE / Carine McCandless  
KRISTEN STEWART / Tracy Tatro  
VINCE VAUGHN / Wayne Westerberg  
_NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN_ (Miramax Films)

JAVIER BARDEM / Anton Chigurh  
JOSH BROLIN / Llewelyn Moss  
GARRET DILLAHUNT / Wendell  
TESS HARPER / Loretta Bell  
WOODY HARRELSON / Carson Wells  
TOMMY LEE JONES / Ed Tom Bell  
KELLY MACDONALD / Carla Jean Moss

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Probably the biggest surprise is that _Sweeney Todd, Atonement_, and_Charlie Wilson’s War_–which have a cumulative 16 Golden Globe nominations, including 8 in the acting categories–all got a big fat goose egg from SAG.

Glad to see _Into the Wild_ do so well, though wish (with 3 films) that they could’ve found room for Philip Seymour Hoffman somewhere in there. And even though neither Josh Brolin or Russell Crowe got individual nominations, they’re both in two of the ensembles up for the award.

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
Probably the biggest surprise is that _Sweeney Todd, Atonement_, and_Charlie Wilson’s War_–which have a cumulative 16 Golden Globe nominations, including 8 in the acting categories–all got a big fat goose egg from SAG.  
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Someone on Awards Daily\* said that SAG members were not sent screeners of those 3 films, and since they haven’t opened wide yet, not enough people on the nominating comittee saw them. Like a lot of people there, I still think **Atonement** is a lock for a Best Picture nomination.

It is sad that no one from **Atonement** got in. I’m also sad for Nicole Kidman and Jennifer Jason Leigh, who both did amazing jobs in **Margot At The Wedding**.

[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
Glad to see _Into the Wild_ do so well, though wish (with 3 films) that they could’ve found room for Philip Seymour Hoffman somewhere in there. And even though neither Josh Brolin or Russell Crowe got individual nominations, they’re both in two of the ensembles up for the award.  
[/QUOTE]  
Philip Seymour Hoffman deserves 3 nominations all by himself. He was great in **The Savages** (oh and where oh where is Laura Linney?), **Before The Devil Knows You’re Dead** , and **Charlie Wilson’s War**. I’m happy about **Into The Wild’s** showing and Russell and Josh’s double noms too. I’m very happy for George Clooney and Tilda Swinton, Ryan Gosling, Casey Affleck, Amy Ryan…

Really, I’m happy for everybody! All the nominations are good. All the films and performances are worthy. I’ve seen all the films except for Elizabeth, A Mighty Heart (and I am SO kicking myself) and There Will Be Blood.

\*Awards Daily…lordy, can you find more immature fan wanker/bashers anywhere on the internet? Cate Blanchett fans hate Nicole Kidman and her fans. Nicole Kidman fans hate Cate Blanchett and her fans. Keira Knightley fans hate everybody. Everybody hates Amy Ryan. Buncha knuckleheads, I tell ya! I love the information I can get there, and there are some nice, sane people there, but oh man too many regulars are nasty-hearted people.

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Also, here are some stats on how similar the SAGs have predicted the eventual Oscar nominees the last 5 years:

2006: 19/20  
2005: 17/20  
2004: 16/20  
2003: 14/20  
2002: 16/20

Actor: 21/25  
Actress: 22/25  
Supp. Actor: 18/25  
Supp. Actress: 21/25

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