# Awesome dumbshit conservative bumper sticker **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318 "2010-12-16T01:36:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/81 "2010-12-17T00:39:03Z")
continents fuck? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/82 "2010-12-17T00:46:29Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > continents fuck? Obviously there must be at least two continents for fucking to occur. Otherwise you’d just have a continent masturbating. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/83 "2010-12-17T00:51:54Z")
Haven’t you ever noticed how well South America and Africa spoon? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/84 "2010-12-17T02:01:27Z")
I gotta say, although the sentiment itself is simplistic and ridiculous, the phrasing is not moronic. You’re interpreting it as “The second Amendment [to the US Constitution] makes the other 9 possible.” Another interpretation is “The second amendment [in the Bill of Rights] makes the other 9 possible.” I see nothing, beyond the opportunity for mockery, to recommend the first interpretation. The fact that it makes sense recommends the second. It’s always worthwhile to provide the most charitable possible reading to an opponent’s words; then, when you thrash them, the thrashing is more thorough. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/85 "2010-12-17T02:14:05Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Sure: > > [http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/08/whither-the-14th-amendment.html](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/08/whither-the-14th-amendment.html) > > Chalk it up perhaps to election-year bizarreness, but suddenly the capital is debating whether the **14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution ought to be repealed, refined or left alone.** That’s an editorial, and he offers no evidence that Republicans want to repeal the amendment. He only talks about those who want to modify the citizenship rule. > [@](#): > > [http://www.southernstudies.org/2010/11/tea-party-leader-denying-vote-to-those-without-property-makes-sense.html](http://www.southernstudies.org/2010/11/tea-party-leader-denying-vote-to-those-without-property-makes-sense.html) > > David DeGerolamo: **“I want the 14th Amendment repealed.”** > > Website of Kevin Craig for Congress (conservative Libertarian, but not a Republican): [Repeal the 14th Amendment! -- KEVIN CRAIG - "Liberty Under God" Beginning in Missouri's 7th Congressional District](http://kevincraig.us/14thAmendment.htm) > > **Congress should > • repeal the 14th Amendment** > > Should I assume that you agree with me about Republicans and the 19th amendment, since you raised no objection to that? And there’s no evidence that DeGerolama is a Republican, either. Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if you trolled the interwebs and found some obscure Republican somewhere who wanted to repeal the 14th, but it was clear from your subsequent post: > [@](#): > > Ignorance of current events is not an excuse. that you were talking about the efforts some have called for wrt the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment. So, the fact is, you made the same kind of mistake that the OP was claiming the bumper sticker made. Maybe not the same degree, but the same kind. > [@Acid Lamp](#): > > Got any more hairs you’d like to split? Oh, I get it. When someone points out YOUR mistakes, they’re splitting hairs. But when someone points out a mistake made by your political adversaries, then that’s just fine and dandy. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/86 "2010-12-17T03:22:48Z")
If\* I had a bumper sticker that said “Nick Jonas makes the other brothers possible,” would the more reasonable reading be that I was talking about the Jonas brothers, or all brothers? - that’s right, if. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/87 "2010-12-17T03:24:45Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > …And there’s no evidence that DeGerolama is a Republican, either… > [@](#): > > …Also on the program was David DeGerolamo, a North Carolina tea party leader and founder of NC Freedom, a state-wide tea party umbrella group… As cited above. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/88 "2010-12-17T09:58:52Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > If\* I had a bumper sticker that said “Nick Jonas makes the other brothers possible,” would the more reasonable reading be that I was talking about the Jonas brothers, or all brothers? To be a valid analogy, the bumper sticker would have to say “Nick Jonas makes the other brother [singular] possible.” (hint: there are more than 10 amendements). ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/89 "2010-12-17T12:38:08Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > To be a valid analogy, the bumper sticker would have to say “Nick Jonas makes the other brother [singular] possible.” > > (hint: there are more than 10 amendements). Not in the bill of rights there aren’t. In the world, there are well over a million. ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/90 "2010-12-17T12:46:57Z")
The Cunstitution, the Bibuhl and the McDonalds’ full menu. The three reference writings for all Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/91 "2010-12-17T12:54:04Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Oh, I get it. When someone points out YOUR mistakes, they’re splitting hairs. But when someone points out a mistake made by your political adversaries, then that’s just fine and dandy. There are certainly degrees of pedantry. The fact that you now **also** want to slice into the hairs between Republican versus Tea Party member versus conservative libertarian suggests you are of a mastery of the matter way beyond my ability. I yield. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/92 "2010-12-17T15:51:38Z")
> [@really not all that bright](#): > > [eddie izzard] 12 monkeys mating, 11 donkeys dancing, 10 pygmies farming… [/ei] ::mumble:: FIVE GOLDEN RINGS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/93 "2010-12-17T16:03:13Z")
> [@bup](#): > > the second amendment makes your other rights possible This is good, but it loses the critical juxtaposition of amendments, all around – you trade “amendments” for “rights” and thus lose the tight association offered by the original. > [@](#): > > the second amendment made nine more possible Here we also lose clarity; when I first read this I thought it meant, “The Second Amendment made it more possible to get nine others,” rather than, “The Second Amendment made it possible to get nine more.” > [@](#): > > Both shorter, neither are inaccurate (at least, the statements are \*debatably \*accurate). Both shorter, but both fail to reliably convey the sense the original does. Not that I hold the original up as a model of clarity either… perhaps: Second Amendment: making the Bill of Rights possible since 1789 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/94 "2010-12-17T16:07:46Z")
Second Amendment: If we can’t shoot puppies, the terrorist have won! ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/95 "2010-12-17T16:14:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Oh, I get it. When someone points out YOUR mistakes, they’re splitting hairs. But when someone points out a mistake made by your political adversaries, then that’s just fine and dandy. Stop this. It’s quite possible that there are liberals out there who find the parsing of the other posters regarding the bumpersticker annoying and not cute as well as finding your nitpickery valueless as well. Frex, me. Stop making unfounded assumptions. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/96 "2010-12-17T16:20:49Z")
I inferred that the bumper sticker in question referred to the other nine as being the remainder of the Bill of Rights. I assume the writer of the sticker and the one using it are well aware that there are more than 10 amendments. So I’m willing to cut them some slack on the wording. As far as the sentiment goes, I think that if you believe that the Second Amendment protects any other rights you have then you are, by definition, a dumb fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/97 "2010-12-17T16:25:59Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Stop this. It’s quite possible that there are liberals out there who find the parsing of the other posters regarding the bumpersticker annoying and not cute as well as finding your nitpickery valueless as well. Frex, me. Stop making unfounded assumptions. That’s pretty much what John’s posts are. A combination of nitpickery and false equivalence that would make a Fox News whore blush with shame. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/98 "2010-12-17T16:35:10Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > That’s pretty much what John’s posts are. A combination of nitpickery and false equivalence that would make a Fox News whore blush with shame. > -Joe 1. **John Mace** is a very reasonable poster. 2. Nothing makes a Fox News whore blush. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/99 "2010-12-17T16:40:15Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > That’s pretty much what John’s posts are. A combination of nitpickery and false equivalence that would make a Fox News whore blush with shame. > > -Joe Do you seriously believe that if we were to run a poll asking people to choose between you and **John Mace** as to which is the more reasonable and even-handed poster that Mace would not win in a landslide? ---
**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/100 "2010-12-17T16:53:06Z")
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