# Awesome dumbshit conservative bumper sticker **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318 "2010-12-16T01:36:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/101 "2010-12-17T16:53:29Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I inferred that the bumper sticker in question referred to the other nine as being the remainder of the Bill of Rights. I assume the writer of the sticker and the one using it are well aware that there are more than 10 amendments. So I’m willing to cut them some slack on the wording. As far as the sentiment goes, I think that if you believe that the Second Amendment protects any other rights you have then you are, by definition, a dumb fuck. I’m actually fairly confident that if you asked the owner of the vehicle how many amendments there were to the constitution, he’d say 10. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/102 "2010-12-17T16:57:03Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Do you seriously believe that if we were to run a poll asking people to choose between you and **John Mace** as to which is the more reasonable and even-handed poster that Mace would not win in a landslide? Well, it’s tough to say. They _both_ have an even number of hands. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/103 "2010-12-17T16:59:02Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Do you seriously believe that if we were to run a poll asking people to choose between you and **John Mace** as to which is the more reasonable and even-handed poster that Mace would not win in a landslide? Ooh, ooh!! Cool. Let’s do a poll as to which poster is the most given to insane levels of tedious, nitpicking, right-wing bias dressed up in the guise of legal expertise! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/104 "2010-12-17T17:43:27Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Ooh, ooh!! Cool. Let’s do a poll as to which poster is the most given to insane levels of tedious, nitpicking, right-wing bias dressed up in the guise of legal expertise! I think it’s adorable that lil’ **Bricker** thinks I give a shit what he thinks. It seems like every week we get another post of “Wow, I used to think that **Bricker** was the reasonable conservative type but instead it turns out that he’s just another right-wing trog with a slightly better vocabulary, I used to respect his opinon blah blah”. I was just ahead of the curve and recognized it a hell of a long time ago. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/105 "2010-12-17T17:44:27Z")
It’s certainly true that every week either you or **Hentor** posts something along those lines. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/106 "2010-12-17T17:53:32Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s certainly true that every week either you or **Hentor** posts something along those lines. Not I. I haven’t seen that trog’s posts (directly) in years. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/107 "2010-12-17T17:53:57Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s certainly true that every week either you or **Hentor** posts something along those lines. In the spirit of the contributions of **John Mace** and **Bricker** to this thread, I am tempted to go and pull such comments from myself and **Merijeek** and demonstrate that your assertion is factually incorrect as to the rate. But who has the time? ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/108 "2010-12-17T18:05:58Z")
> [@Walmarticus](#): > > how do we know the driver wasn’t just an epic troll? He was wearing clothes and his hair was neat and combed. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/109 "2010-12-17T18:41:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, it’s tough to say. They _both_ have an even number of hands. OK, so, a tie on the handedness thing. Still a runaway victory for John on the reasonableness issue. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/110 "2010-12-17T19:10:20Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Stop this. It’s quite possible that there are liberals out there who find the parsing of the other posters regarding the bumpersticker annoying and not cute as well as finding your nitpickery valueless as well. Frex, me. Stop making unfounded assumptions. There probably are. But I was talking to one particular individual who didn’t. So, no, I won’t stop and let someone else have the final word when they’re demonstrably wrong. If that bothers you, then you should stay the fuck out of this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/111 "2010-12-17T19:36:10Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > Jeesus. We can’t even agree that stupid bumper sticker is stupid? > > Let’s fight ignorance here. If I said I wanted to sing about the four days of Christmas, I’d get laughed at. None of this, “well, it’s only everything under five golden rings that make the original heart of the days of Christmas.” I made a wrong statement. There are more than 10 amendments. THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS! Thank you. EVERY political argument is like this. Reality itself has become soft - a thing to be rules-lawyered, nit-picked and torn apart until some tiny part can be said to kinda-sorta support the argument that the person wants to make. That part is then hoisted upon their shoulders and paraded around in victory. I generally don’t get involved with such discussions, as ppl who hold positions that go counter to the majority of the facts, or who have to look at the facts\* just so\* to support their viewpoint don’t generally want to be disabused of their notions. See: any anthropomorphic climate change discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/112 "2010-12-18T18:41:19Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > To be a valid analogy, the bumper sticker would have to say “Nick Jonas makes the other brother [singular] possible.” > > (hint: there are more than 10 amendements). Ha ha, you’re an awesome dumbshit! You think there are only three people in the whole world who are brothers! What an idiot! See how that goes? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/113 "2010-12-18T19:44:42Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Ha ha, you’re an awesome dumbshit! You think there are only three people in the whole world who are brothers! > > What an idiot! > > See how that goes? Yes, you’re right, perhaps I was too generous in ruling out the 100% nonsense interpretation, given the intellects that are apparently involved. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/114 "2010-12-18T21:44:32Z")
Yes, that’s a really good one. The point is that whether you like it or not, the Bill of Rights is a real thing that comprises 10 amendments, and it’s common enough for people to refer to it as its own entity that you aren’t obligated to read that statement as implying “the other nine (in the Constitution)” any more than you’re obligated to read a million other potentially ambiguous constructions in ways that make them seem stupid. If somebody says that he liked A Perfect Day for Bananafish more than the other eight stories, you can _pretend_ that you believe that he thinks there are only nine stories in the whole world if you like, but you’ll look pretty silly trying to point it out to anybody else. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/115 "2010-12-18T21:56:48Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > The point is that whether you like it or not, the Bill of Rights is a real thing that comprises 10 amendments, Oh dear… you’ve caught me out, I really dislike the fact that there are 10 amendments in the Bill of Rights. I really didn’t feel like that quartering troops business really ought to have been in there. It’s been getting in my craw since somewhere around 1987 and I’m still a little sensitive talking about it, so if we could just not dwell on that more than absolutely necessary I’d really appreciate it. > [@](#): > > and it’s common enough for people to refer to it as its own entity that you aren’t obligated to read that statement as implying “the other nine (in the Constitution)” any more than you’re obligated to read a million other potentially ambiguous constructions in ways that make them seem stupid. Even so… it only makes “THE other NINE amendments” possible. Not the 11th or 17th or the 21st? It’s still an ignorant statement even under your exceedingly generous interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/116 "2010-12-20T00:18:27Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > Even so… it only makes “THE other NINE amendments” possible. Not the 11th or 17th or the 21st? It’s still an ignorant statement even under your exceedingly generous interpretation. Addressed above: > [@Bricker](#): > > It’s very plausible to me that the sentiment was meant only to extend to the Bill of Rights, because they collectively carve out rights for the people. Other amendments do this as well, of course, but they are interspersed with amendments that do not. The Sixteenth Amendment, for example, conflicts strongly with the sentiment here, as does the Eighteenth. The Eleventh Amendment is utterly indifferent to the cause. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/117 "2010-12-20T13:06:31Z")
Well, hell. Why are we even assuming that he or she is referring to the US Constitution? Maybe this pertains to this person’s bowling league charter. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/118 "2010-12-20T14:16:22Z")
I’m not sure what the fuss is about in this thread. The first Ten Amendments were the Work of God. The remaining so-called “amendments” were forced on us by Satan-worshipping crypto-Islamic homosexual baby-killing communists, who weren’t even born in This Country. I thought all patriotic Americans knew this much. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/119 "2010-12-21T00:51:28Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m not sure what the fuss is about in this thread. > > The first Ten Amendments were the Work of God. > > The remaining so-called “amendments” were forced on us by Satan-worshipping crypto-Islamic homosexual baby-killing communists, who weren’t even born in This Country. > > I thought all patriotic Americans knew this much. I had no idea Hanz v Louisana generated this much ire today. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318/120 "2010-12-26T02:53:38Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The sentiment reflects a very 18th century frame of mind. Maybe even early 19th century. It was certainly true that the colonists and early citizens had a well founded fear of governments not allowing the citizenry to be armed. And, that such an armed citizenry had a reasonable chance to resists a tyranical government. But the truth is, times have changed, and what was a valid concern 200 years ago simply isn’t the same concern we have today. > > I’ve never been a huge gun supporter, and while I respect the 2nd amendment for what it is, I wouldn’t be bothered if it was re-written to allow much tighter regulations at the federal level. We don’t need it to defend our freedom. I say the same thing about the first Amendment and people call me names. Best wishes, hh [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-dumbshit-conservative-bumper-sticker/564318.md?page=7)