# Awesome lawyer letter **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 5, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722 "2010-01-05T04:43:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/1 "2010-01-05T04:43:43Z")
Even the non-lawyers might enjoy [this response](https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B77l4lqiR0CuZDEwZDczMzMtNzAwZC00Mjc2LThiMjgtNjdjMDg1YzVmNTkz&hl=en) to charges of defamation alleged by a Florida Hyundai dealership. I particularly liked the line, “Rather than finding ourselves locked in an unpleasant dispute, from which Route 60 Hyundai will emerge covered in a thick and sticky coating of humiliation…” Definitely an example of the Streisand effect in action. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/2 "2010-01-05T05:20:39Z")
IANAL, but I enjoyed reading that. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/3 "2010-01-05T05:22:56Z")
Yep, worthy of Abe Lincoln himself. I can guess what the Streisand Effect is, but I must admit I have never heard that term before. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/4 "2010-01-05T05:27:45Z")
Very, very funny. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/5 "2010-01-05T05:40:57Z")
It must be fun for a lawyer to be able to write a letter like that. Makes me wonder what the response was. So is it true? Does Route 60 Hyndai, in fact, suck? ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/6 "2010-01-05T05:46:39Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I can guess what the Streisand Effect is, but I must admit I have never heard that term before. [Streisand effect](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It must be fun for a lawyer to be able to write a letter like that. Makes me wonder what the response was. Yeah, I would love to get a client that would allow me to write something like that (of course, I’d also love to be a good enough writer to pull it off). I have no idea whether Route 60 Hyundai sucks or not. If the client’s account is true, then I guess it does. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/7 "2010-01-05T06:29:51Z")
FYI [here is the page on the matter from the Citizen Law Media Project](http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/route-60-hyundai-v-alascio). ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/8 "2010-01-05T06:34:32Z")
Nice letter “Murum aries attigit” - “The ram has touched the wall.” Romans had the policy that held that once an assault has begun, accept no mercy or quarter. The ram touching the wall referred to the battering ram in an assault. Take it to mean “Grant no mercy!” ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/9 "2010-01-05T06:41:25Z")
That reads like something\*\* Bricker \*\*might write…😃 ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/10 "2010-01-05T11:39:37Z")
Marc Randazza, the lawyer who wrote the letter, is quite the writer. He recently defended [Isaac Eiland-Hall](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_v._Eiland-Hall) against Glenn Beck. And won. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/11 "2010-01-05T12:25:23Z")
I would really love to know the outcome of it all. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/12 "2010-01-05T12:50:46Z")
The incident is now cited on the “Streisand Effect” Wikipedia page. That’s postmodern ironic meta-something or other, innit. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/13 "2010-01-05T13:18:55Z")
The outcome would be just the dealership going quiet. The dealership’s lawyers already knew all the stuff in the Randazza letter. Randazza could be a clever man or a wanker: it’s hard to tell. If he wrote that letter to show off his smug cleverness and lucked out when it multiplied the Streisand effect then he’s a wanker. If he did it knowing he was probably going to amplify the Streisand effect, then he was clever. There are certainly lawyers out there who write letters like that with one hand under the desk, getting off on how clever they think they are. Mainly lawyers like that are younger than Randazza is likely to be. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/14 "2010-01-05T13:34:18Z")
Ha. It’s Randazza. Constitutional specialist and lecturer at some university. But I’m pretty sure he’s just in the law for the hookers. ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/15 "2010-01-05T13:52:26Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > The outcome would be just the dealership going quiet. The dealership’s lawyers already knew all the stuff in the Randazza letter. > > Randazza could be a clever man or a wanker: it’s hard to tell. If he wrote that letter to show off his smug cleverness and lucked out when it multiplied the Streisand effect then he’s a wanker. If he did it knowing he was probably going to amplify the Streisand effect, then he was clever. There are certainly lawyers out there who write letters like that with one hand under the desk, getting off on how clever they think they are. Mainly lawyers like that are younger than Randazza is likely to be. He did specially mention the Streisand Effect in the letter, so it sounds like he knew exactly what he was doing… his whole point is that the initial tweets were only seen by a few people, but by sending the C&D letter the dealership had shot themselves in the foot publicity-wise. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/16 "2010-01-05T13:57:53Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > Ha. It’s Randazza. Constitutional specialist and lecturer at some university. But I’m pretty sure he’s just in the law for the hookers. Yeah, you can tell that by his [client list](http://www.mjrpa.com/about/marc-j-randazza/) (with pic of Randazza, click on “Clients” to see list), which includes: Bangbus MilfHunter Captain Stabbin Hogtied Fuckingmachines Whipped Ass Team Squirt Vox Erotic Sissy School Euro Sex Parties Cumfiesta Ass Parade Big Naturals In the VIP His First Amendment focus seems to be rather, uh, specialized. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/17 "2010-01-05T14:24:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yeah, you can tell that by his [client list](http://www.mjrpa.com/about/marc-j-randazza/) (with pic of Randazza, click on “Clients” to see list), which includes: > > Bangbus > MilfHunter > Captain Stabbin > Hogtied > Fuckingmachines > Whipped Ass > Team Squirt > Vox Erotic > Sissy School > Euro Sex Parties > Cumfiesta > Ass Parade > Big Naturals > In the VIP > > His First Amendment focus seems to be rather, uh, specialized. Haha, yeah that’s right,😃 I knew there was something about his rather special client base and I knew it involved porn, but after that I wasn’t sure. I don’t remember exactly why his name was on my radar, I think he might have been the subject of some discussion a few years ago among colleagues. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/18 "2010-01-05T14:43:22Z")
That’s because porn is not only at the forefront of technology, but also First Amendment law. Let’s face it, if it weren’t for porn, we wouldn’t be half as advanced as we are now. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/19 "2010-01-05T14:44:28Z")
Just one day I’d like to start a letter with “My client, Cumfiesta…” ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722/20 "2010-01-05T15:24:13Z")
> [@](#): > > My client considers this to be adequate justification to form the opinion that “Route 60 Hyundai sucks.” What else can you say? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awesome-lawyer-letter/523722.md?page=2)