# Awful yet predictable consequences of anti-abortion legislation omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787 "2022-08-16T22:54:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![anny\_m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@anny\_m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anny_m)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/61 "2024-11-02T22:55:00Z")
I admit – it made me cry. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/62 "2024-11-02T23:40:47Z")
[A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms](https://www.yahoo.com/news/pregnant-teenager-died-trying-care-153955021.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.) > Candace Fails screamed for someone in the Texas hospital to help her pregnant daughter. “Do something,” she pleaded, on the morning of Oct. 29, 2023. > > Nevaeh Crain was crying in pain, too weak to walk, blood staining her thighs. Feverish and vomiting the day of her baby shower, the 18-year-old had gone to two different emergency rooms within 12 hours, returning home each time worse than before. > > The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave. > > Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care. > > By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing. > > Hours later, she was dead. > > Fails, who would have seen her daughter turn 20 this Friday, still cannot understand why Crain’s emergency was not treated like an emergency. > > But that is what many pregnant women are now facing in states with strict abortion bans, doctors and lawyers have told ProPublica. > > “Pregnant women have become essentially untouchables,” said Sara Rosenbaum, a health law and policy professor emerita at George Washington University. There is much more of this article at the link. But the very last part I quoted above is quite important: > “Pregnant women have become essentially untouchables,” said Sara Rosenbaum, a health law and policy professor emerita at George Washington University. The prof is mistaken. The women are not untouchable; their pregnancies are. The legislators care not a whit about the women. And they certainly don’t care about the child once born. The women are simply “collateral damage” and all that matters is no doctor was allowed to terminate a pregnancy. Terminating the pregnant women, though, doesn’t bother the legislators at all. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/63 "2024-11-03T04:42:30Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The prof is mistaken. The women are not untouchable; their pregnancies are. The legislators care not a whit about the women. Sure they do; they care about making her suffer and die. This is a matter of _malice_ towards women, not indifference; incidents like this are the whole point. They’re “punishing the sluts”. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/64 "2024-11-03T04:50:22Z")
> [@anny\_m](#): > > I admit – it made me cry. Me too. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/65 "2024-11-04T00:20:49Z")
I always thought Brittany Snow was underrated as an actress before, but goddamn. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/66 "2024-11-04T03:38:59Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > The prof is mistaken. The women are not untouchable; their pregnancies are. The legislators care not a whit about the women. > > Sure they do; they care about making her suffer and die. This is a matter of _malice_ towards women, not indifference; incidents like this are the whole point. They’re “punishing the sluts”. Correct. I completely forgot this viciousness does not now, never has, and never will apply to their own wives, daughters, and mistresses. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/67 "2024-11-04T03:41:33Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > > [@anny\_m](#): > > > > I admit – it made me cry. > > Me too. Me (77 year old male) three. Guess I should revise my contribution to the “When did you last cry?” thread. “Gut punch” is wholly inadequate. I’m still shaking an hour later. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/68 "2024-11-04T18:04:42Z")
I made the mistake of watching this while at work. I had to go hide in a bathroom stall and sob quietly when the twist was revealed. Did anyone think the symbolism of an elephant was relevant? To shame the R’s, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/69 "2024-11-04T18:35:17Z")
I don’t think so, not given how they used the analogy. Elephants are indeed matriarchal, and you fuck with anyone in the herd at your peril. Those girls do stick together. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/70 "2024-11-21T14:09:53Z")
remember when Herman Cain said that raped women could themselves physically “self-abort”? ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/71 "2024-11-21T14:12:49Z")
wasn’t it Vance that said doing it “for” women whether they want or not ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787/72 "2024-11-21T14:16:15Z")
[Trump said it](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-protect-women-like-it-or-not-rcna178147). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awful-yet-predictable-consequences-of-anti-abortion-legislation-omnibus-thread/969787.md?page=3)