# Awright, cheese eating surrender monkeys

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 8, 2002, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999 "2002-08-08T18:11:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/121 "2002-08-11T22:28:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by grendel72 \*  
> \*\*Y’know, **happyheathen** is just one of them ignorant, puritan, imperialist,Indiginous-people-raping, Vietnam-war-losing Americans… \*\*

maybe. but at least I’m not French!

care to wipe out another S. Pacific island or two?

and who was the govt. asshole who called Isreal a “shitty little country” in front of reporters?

sell any reactors to Saddam lately? oh, right. you did.

Americans: make a note - next time the germans want to roll over that shitty little country, let’s let them.

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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/122 "2002-08-11T22:47:25Z")

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um…

seems so many cannot distinguish between the actions of the government of a country and the actions of individual citizens/subject/whatever of a country.

Trying to equate the Vichy to Tim McVeigh doesn’t work.

(and, yes, the the people who sank the Rainbow Warrior were real, live French spies, carrying out orders from Paris. Y’all should know this. It was in all the papers. (and, find your own damned cite))

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/123 "2002-08-11T22:47:39Z")

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Oh wow. Someone who is aware of bad things the French have done. Clearly we should blindly listen to him and bash the French.

oh wait. Maybe we should consider that any number of countries and their people have done ill-advised things and that doesn’t mean they are devoid of merit.

FWIW, **hh** , being myself of french descent, I’d much rather be French than share any genes with you.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/124 "2002-08-11T22:48:42Z")

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And as for “find your own damned cite”, anyone who’d spent a fucking HOUR in GD knows that shit don’t fly any better than a duck with no wings.

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**Author:** ![Sparc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Sparc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparc)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/125 "2002-08-11T23:20:29Z")

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happyheathen… don’t even try that shit with us. You were never distinguishing “between the actions of the government of a country and the actions of individual citizens/subject/whatever of a country.”

You were and are just being a bigoted little ass-wipe with understanding of history and culture like a third grader, and the social abilities of a rhino.

P’tit con minable vas!

Sparc

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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/126 "2002-08-11T23:20:58Z")

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y’all don’t need to listen to me.

just bash the French 🙂

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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/127 "2002-08-11T23:24:24Z")

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is googlefish failing, or are may of you trying to type french without knowing the language?

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2002, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/128 "2002-08-11T23:35:54Z")

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**hh** , before you go trying to insult people who know colloquial French, you might want to work **on your own ability with the English language**. Stupid little shit. People like you make me glad I don’t go to GD often…

“Hey, let’s ignore the fact that I couldn’t debate my way out of a wet paper bag if it were being held upside down!”

Va te faire foutre avec une vache morte et sa mammelle salle.

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**Author:** ![Sivalensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Sivalensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sivalensis)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/129 "2002-08-12T00:12:41Z")

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ouch iampunha! lol maybe we shouldn’t be slinging insults if not everyone can understand them, though I do find them rather amusing meself 🙂 Don’t get much French around here and I just soak it up!

And yes, French public policy isn’t always the best but hey, a lot of the French know that. As far as I’m aware, there were many of the French who weren’t happy about Chirac doing the nuclear testing in the pacific and were protesting.

Hell, I don’t like a lot of america’s policies. I’m a democrat and disagree quite vociferiously with Ashcroft and Bush on many issues. A country’s policies are not its people, and unfortunately France just came out of a very unfortunate election where many people felt like they had no choice…it was vote conservative or vote fascist.

So I don’t believe that public policy is a valid argument for the personal temperament of the people…individuals are almost always more varied and interesting than the overall generalization.

btw, the dubbing got quite interesting…I could actually tell you, if I heard a particular dubber’s voice, that that was Mel Gibson’s French voice (and it isn’t half bad, as far as dubbing goes I suppose). Haven’t heard Jerry Lewis’ though.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/130 "2002-08-12T00:20:53Z")

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Good point, **Sivalensis** , re: people not understanding things. I had forgotten that it was a general board rule not to post things in languages other than English lest we make life difficult for the mods. And though I’m pretty sure the intent of my (rather simplistic and blunt) sentence is easy enough to see with a trip to babelfish, A) mods shouldn’t have to be doing that and B) there’s nothing for colloquial French in terms of Babelfish.

In short: **hh** , you are cordially invited to go fuck yourself with a dead cow and her dirty tit. I couldn’t think of the French words for “diseased, purulent maggot-filled underbelly of a leorpus yak” and quite frankly you’re not worth the trip to babelfish.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/131 "2002-08-12T00:24:27Z")

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Sigh. Once again I fail to preview. There is no French word, it is my guess, for **leorpus** , especially since it is not a word in any language (AFAIK). I meant (duh) leprous.

No doubt **happyheathen** will find this riotously amusing and claim some small victory. But I’m not an idjit, so I guess I win:)

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**Author:** ![Sivalensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Sivalensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sivalensis)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/132 "2002-08-12T00:30:11Z")

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lmao hmmm…I think that would be:

Vas te faire foutre avec les mammelles pourries et plein des asticots d’un yak lépreux

That was fun! _grin_ Given, it’s not exact since french isn’t my first language, so it might sound weird to a french person. But I’ve never had to translate words like that before 🙂

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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/133 "2002-08-12T00:36:40Z")

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ah, vulgarity as an educational tool.

ain’t life grand…

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**Author:** ![peasea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc79bd/32.png) [@peasea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peasea)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/134 "2002-08-12T00:52:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by happyheathen \*  
> \*\*ah, vulgarity as an educational tool.
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> ain’t life grand… \*\*

What’s the matter, forming an actual argument too difficult, so you need to pick on _something_? Sounds like fun.

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> \*\*y’all don’t need to listen to me.
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> just bash the French \*\*

Ah…blind bigotry as a motivational tool.

Ain’t life grand…

Hey, that _was_ kinda fun.

So, **hh** , do you actually believe any of what is spewing forth from your mouth? If you weren’t so poor at debating, I’d think you’re the guy behind **taggert**. Now, _he_ was a master at it.

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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/135 "2002-08-12T01:00:58Z")

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ever try to form an argument about

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> In short: hh, you are cordially invited to go fuck yourself with a dead cow and her dirty tit. I couldn’t think of the French words for “diseased, purulent maggot-filled underbelly of a leorpus yak”

? I don’t think Taggert could do it.

Still waiting for an example of my extending the action of an individual to condemn the entire country.

(also confirmation of the direction travel of the guns on the maginot line, for that matter)

for now, though, the opposing side seems to be busy thinking of witty vulgarities.

they must be having another of those “french moments”…

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**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/136 "2002-08-12T01:07:39Z")

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When you say “the french” you are bashing a whole group of people based on what a few have done.

Jesus fucking Christ, dude, you make me ashamed to be an American.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/137 "2002-08-12T01:25:42Z")

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Where’s that sandwich de steak hache avec French fried potatoes garnish?

God DAMN, the service around here.

Garcon!

GARCON!

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/138 "2002-08-12T01:34:33Z")

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“Still waiting for an example of my extending the action of an individual to condemn the entire country.”

You “cited” Chirac’s actions and then said “hey let’s bash the French.” In other words, read your own fucking posts, oh he of the reading comprehension and memory of a dead sloth.

If you need anything more obvious than that I suggest you contact your resident five-year-old.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/139 "2002-08-12T01:41:31Z")

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::rushes in with a plate of burned steak and wet potatoes::

So sorry monsieur but the keetchen staff had zee leetle problehm avec ze meat. It seems zhat zee meat, she was not will-ing to surrender to zee flame, and we French hate to fight anything zat weel fight back, no? So we had to get zee dish-washer, who is a German pig-dog, to put it on zee grille … but we failt so sorree for eet zhat we 'ad to get zee dish-wasgher back to faitch eet off zee grille again.

And zee potatoes … ah yes, zee potatoes. Well, we know zhat you are an American Democratic asshole, so we dropped zhem in zee toilet for you! See, because you stuupid Americans are forever buying zee “eau de toilette” we export from la France, which is seelly toilet water! A-haahahahaha! A-hahahahaha!

Ahem. Here, monsieur, eez your meeeal. We hope zhat you enjoy eet.

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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2002, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awright-cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/122999/140 "2002-08-12T02:02:06Z")

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any amrican who allows a french swine to touch his food desreves what he gets.

duh.

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