# Awww ... that's a shame

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 8, 2001, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207 "2001-10-08T23:30:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/21 "2001-10-09T02:36:03Z")

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I’m still waiting for the peaceful Muslims (they’re the majority, right?) to show up. So far, all I’ve seen are a bunch of anti-American loons rampaging and destroying for Allah.

Don’t light fires if you don’t want to get burned.

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**Author:** ![johnson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@johnson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnson)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/22 "2001-10-09T02:42:18Z")

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Peaceful Muslims don’t make for good video.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/23 "2001-10-09T02:43:17Z")

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hmmmmm… getting idea… American flags laced with a fire ignited high-explosive charge, sold primarily in Anti-American markets. The repeat business would be a kinda sparse, but maybe I could get subsidies from somebody.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Sota_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/24 "2001-10-09T03:39:06Z")

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You’re such an entreprenuer! LOL

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**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/25 "2001-10-09T03:42:34Z")

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Besides, I saw a picture of the guy on the AP LeafDesk. He’s not hurt that bad.

**Fenris** you’re a genius. After the Straight Dope Cookbook, we gotta get started on the **Fenris Songbook.**. That sucker _scanned!_\*

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**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/26 "2001-10-09T03:55:46Z")

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Doesn’t the AAAFB\* have an exchange program?

Come on, Pakistanis. Don’t try this at home. You gotta learn what you’re doing from the pros first.

[sub]\*The American Association of American Flag-Burners[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/27 "2001-10-09T05:36:07Z")

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If this had happened in the United States, the burn “victim” have probably have sued the flag manufacturer for lack of fire-retardancy.

This case may yet wind up in the World Court.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/28 "2001-10-09T05:42:34Z")

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I can only say that it’s about time that some of the Eastern countries got in the running for the Darwin Awards.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/29 "2001-10-09T05:43:09Z")

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Ah come on, you’ve got to feel for the guy. Now all the other flag burners are going to call him a lamer, he’ll get picked last for sports teams, no-one’s going to sit next to him at lunch…poor little guy.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/30 "2001-10-09T05:57:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> **Serious burns, like the kind you get when your clothes are ablaze, are _terrible_. They are to pain what Stonehenge is to rocks, what CarrotTop is to unfunny. We’re talking agony here.**

No disrespect **elucidator** , but cry me a fucking river. I’d cheerfully pour some saline solution on that shithead right now given half a chance.

I deeply support the right of every American to burn ten flags a day. What was being promoted in Pakistan is a whole 'nother matter. Now, where’s my bag of salt?

PS: Thanks, **Milo** , I needed that!

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**Author:** ![Dale\_The\_Bold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@Dale\_The\_Bold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_The_Bold)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/31 "2001-10-09T05:58:34Z")

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US Flag: $19

Lighter: $.99

Getting your picture posted worldwide while everyone laughs hysterically as you light your ignorant ass on fire: Priceless  
Did anyone else notice how all the bystanders seem to be laughing at the guy? What a strange culture.

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**Author:** ![Sigmund\_Fudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sigmund\_Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmund_Fudd)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/32 "2001-10-09T06:07:17Z")

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Man that is such a terrible terrible waste of life!!! It just makes me sooo sad that he didnt have a stick of dynamite shoved up his ass so he could have taken few more of his fellow camel f#~kers with him!

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**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/33 "2001-10-09T06:23:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dale The Bold \*  
> \*\*Did anyone else notice how all the bystanders seem to be laughing at the guy? What a strange culture. \*\*

Obviously, they were laughing because he was a closet American sympathizer.

[Osama] So _why_ do American infidel sympathizers burn?

[pause]

[Muhajadeen #3] …B…'cause they’re…made of…pork?

[Osama] Good!

[Taliban] Oh yeah, yeah…

[sub]Dedicated to Eutychus55.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/34 "2001-10-09T06:26:58Z")

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> > Originally posted by Zappo  
> > What Fenris said.
> > 
> > \<Alanis Morrisette\>
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> > “It’s lighting the flag on fire, and toasting your ass. . .”
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> > \</Alanis Morrisette\>
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> That was an alternate take, wasn’t it? I think it even kinda fits…

Nah, it wouldn’t fit in that song cause we all know that there are very few examples of irony in the AM song. Her examples were all just shitty luck, not irony.

Now this guy, he needs to have his picture in the dictionary next to irony. Hell, what the situation really calls for is a whole new word based on his name. Like “I really pulled a Homer” means I got really lucky. Proposed definition . . .

**??? - An act of extreme irony which inflicts bodily harm, usually to a dumbass.**

Wish I knew this guys name. I too would like to send him a get well card. Maybe one of those new highly flammable ones. . .

The OP get’s the lovin’ dj award for funniest link of the month. Way to go **Millosarian**.

DaLovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/35 "2001-10-09T06:31:07Z")

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> Two fire trucks were torched in the street.

So, who do they call when the flames reach their own neighborhood. Do these people have shoe-size IQ’s or what?  
Why am I having a really hard time mustering any sympathy?

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**Author:** ![pennylane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@pennylane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pennylane)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/36 "2001-10-09T10:55:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> **I’m still waiting for the peaceful Muslims (they’re the majority, right?) to show up.**

**gobear** , the peaceful Muslims aren’t rioting and burning Taliban flags in the streets, they’re hiding at home. I passed a flag-burning once during the Gulf War days and, despite a deep-seated belief that George Bush (Sr.) is the spawn of Satan, I jokingly told my mother I was going to start shouting pro-America slogans. She told me I would get our car torched.

I noticed the expressions of the bystanders in the picture too, and immediately recognised the standard gawking looks which are present at all such riots. (I noticed them when CNN showed Afghanis storming a deserted U.S. embassy building as well.) I think the idiots were still enjoying their day out and didn’t notice that one of their number was in the throes of death. That empty, gaping grin is the trademark of a brainwashed mob.

Personally I don’t think I’d laugh at anyone on fire but I like that song, **Fenris**. Good one.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/37 "2001-10-09T12:19:31Z")

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> QUETTA, Pakistan - Mobs stormed this city by the Afghan border today, lobbing firebombs while chanting glory to Osama bin Laden and hatred for America.

But when asked, they had to admit that they’re hooked on _Jackass_.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/38 "2001-10-09T13:44:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jmatthewb \*  
> \*\*… fellow camel f#~kers with him! \*\*

I don’t have much sympathy for the morons either…but could we dispense with the racial epithets? It’s so…, you know…, un-American and all that.

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**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/39 "2001-10-09T14:00:45Z")

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Laughing at this guy seems wrong, I do however, appreciate the irony in the situation.

Things in Pakistan are getting ugly, the radicals there are using the situation in Afghanistan to further their own agendas.

Their actions will have a grim consequence for the refugees in that area as no trucks will enter the area while this protests are going on.

Ironic and sad, that’s what this is.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/awww-thats-a-shame/86207/40 "2001-10-09T14:01:54Z")

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When I ask about "peacful Muslims, I want to know…

why there is no Arab movement for peace with Israel?

why the Pakistani rioters don’t say that OBL’s acts do not represent Islam?

why the various mullahs and imams don’t excommunicate OBL and the Taliban?

Why, when Muslim activists demand an Islamic state, it results in thieves’hands being amputated and unveiled women being stoned to death?

why the citizens of Arab nations are unable to differentiate between a war on the Taliban and a war on Islam?

I’ve read Karen Armstrong’s history of Islam, I’ve read books on Sufi philosophy (which sounds surprisingly like Zen Buddhism), I know the many contributions of Islamic culture to the world.

Yet what I read in the paper and see on TV leads me to believe that Muslims, by and large, are a pack of bloodthirsty barbarians.

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