# Axl Rose **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 30, 2002, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278 "2002-08-30T13:22:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/1 "2002-08-30T13:22:23Z")
Did he have some major plastic surgery? Or am I seeing things? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/2 "2002-08-30T13:32:10Z")
Any pics? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/3 "2002-08-30T13:33:43Z")
And didn’t he sound like crap? And why have my youthful memories of Guns & Roses rocking with Axle, Slash and Dizzy been replaced by Axle rockin with the Gimp from Pulp Fiction and a 7’ Kubuki doll in a yellow raincoat and a popcorn box on is head? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/4 "2002-08-30T13:57:39Z")
two points: 1. I couldn’t tell if Axl’s voice was truly off or if it was just mixed poorly - it sounded more or less like him tonally, but it sounds like it was being squeaked out, with not of the dominance you hear in the recordings. 2. Yeah, Buckethead is a freak, but he can play like a motherfucker - did you hear any of his lead work at the end of Paradise City? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/5 "2002-08-30T15:44:27Z")
**Yojimbo** I’ll try and dig up some new pictures, so far no luck. I saw the performance for maybe 5 seconds last night, and I heard the plastic surgery thing mentioned a few times. No concrete evidence, but I remember him looking very strange last night. Ah buckethead, sweet old Buckethead. He’s been wearing that mask and KFC bucket for nigh on 10 years and as **Wordman** aptly pointed out, that guy can play some mean guitar. ‘Praxis’ is another band in which he used to play with Bootsy Collins. Its basically cosmic space funk/metal, or some strange variant of it. [here](http://www.stormpages.com/xozita/pics/buckethead/index1/index.htm) are some pictures of Buckethead BTW. ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/6 "2002-08-30T16:09:56Z")
Anyone ver see Buckethead without his mask? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/7 "2002-08-30T18:08:00Z")
Nope, just tried to find a picture, no luck. ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/8 "2002-08-30T18:19:57Z")
Hmmmm…who **is** that mysterious finger-lickin’ bucket man? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/9 "2002-08-30T19:35:58Z")
Dear God, [this](http://www.pagesix.com/pagesix/21449.htm) was in today’s paper. :o ---
**Author:** ![GoldenGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8edcca/32.png) [@GoldenGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoldenGael)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/10 "2002-08-30T19:52:34Z")
I didn’t note any great change in the picture **LolaCocaCola** linked to, but then Mr. Rose has always looked strange to me. Far stranger is the way he has always sounded – like Olive Oyl getting a pelvic exam at the hands of Hannibal Lecter. How can people bear to listen to him? ---
**Author:** ![Minor\_Irritant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Minor\_Irritant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minor_Irritant)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2002, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/11 "2002-08-30T22:49:01Z")
Great Ceasar’s Ghost! I remember **Zorro** mentioning that Axl took a KFC bucket from an audience member at a recent concert and put it on, and I understand why, now. And **Golden Gael** : quite happily, thank you. I’d rather listen to him than the faux-grunge “nu-metal” bands that have been popping up recently like mushrooms after the rain. ---
**Author:** ![Intaglio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/71e660/32.png) [@Intaglio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intaglio)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/12 "2002-08-31T00:02:16Z")
Maybe it’s not Axl, maybe it’s Dave Mustaine from Megadeth it looks like him with red braids, since Dave can’t play guitar anymore, maybe he’s fronting Guns & Roses. Whoever that was, his vocals SUCKED, I’ve never been a fan of GnR but this was the worst, i have ever heard him, Go Away and Stay Away. Bucket Head looks like Jason, with a KFC Bucket on, he might play really good, but someone should have told him that’s a stupid gimmick. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/13 "2002-08-31T00:06:50Z")
Boy am I feeling old. Where did this buckethead fellow come from? And Guns’N’Roses still put out albums and go on tours? I didn’t know that they had any album with original material after the “Use Your Illusion” double album or released anything after “the Spaghetti Incident” (which I never heard, but I think the album only includes cover songs.) ---
**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/14 "2002-08-31T01:33:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arnold Winkelried \* > \*\*Boy am I feeling old. Where did this buckethead fellow come from? And Guns’N’Roses still put out albums and go on tours? I didn’t know that they had any album with original material after the “Use Your Illusion” double album or released anything after “the Spaghetti Incident” (which I never heard, but I think the album only includes cover songs.) \*\* Yeah, _The Spaghetti Incident???_ is an album of mainly punkish covers, but there was some controversy over the inclusion of a song written by Charles Manson. The song is called “Look At Your Game, Girl,” and it was the unlisted final track on the album. The song may have been deleted from later pressings of the CD/album. After that, there was a major shakeup in GNR due to the fact that AXL wanted the band to go in one direction musically, towards a more dance/electronica type of sound, while Slash wanted to stay on the blues/punk/hard rock path GNR was on. Slash finally just up and left and formed Slash’s Snakepit and in 1995 released _It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere_ which some insiders close to GNR have said is essentially what the next GNR record would have been. Meanwhile, Axl pretty much up and disappeared, which led to the usual rumors of his death or his new career as a porn star. During his hiatus, Axl acquired the rights to the Guns 'N Roses name which meant that whatever Axl said was GNR was in fact legally GNR. Eventually Axl got a number of musicians together and began wiritng songs but there were rumors of Axl’s _really_ odd behavior, like demanding that the _new_ GNR re-record **Appetite For Destruction** not for note. This apparently took an insane amount of time and led to numerous people quitting the band. As for Buckethead, he has apparently been around for a good while and seems to be a damn good guitarist, if more then a bit eccentric. Hey, he can’t be weirder then Marilyn Manson. A couple of years ago GNR made an appearence at the Rock In Rio festival and the show was supposedly quite good. GNR had a new song, _Oh My God_, which was on the soundtrack to the Scwarzeneggar film **End Of Days**. Unfortunately, radio wasn’t very receptive. Oh yeah, back in 1994, GNR did a truly **bad** cover of _Sympathy For The Devil_ which was on the soundtrack for _Interview With The Vampire_. GNR did a couple of shows at the Hard Rock Casino in Vegas and announced plans to tour last year, but then Buckethead had some health problems, not drug related, so the tour was canceled. GNR recently started a short tour of England & Europe and Axl has said that the long awaited new GNR album **Chinese Democracy** is done and all that is left to do is arrange the track sequence and get the final artwork done. Knowing how Axl works, those last few things could take anywhere from 2 weeks to 12 years to get done. Does that answer your questions? As for Axl’s having plastic surgery, so fucking what??? Why is that something to get all bent out of shape about? I don’t hear anyone screeching and bleating about Janet Jackson having had her boobs and her nose done. If he wants to get plastic surgery and have a dick attached to his forehead, hey it’s **his** money, not yours that is being spent on the surgery. ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/15 "2002-08-31T14:24:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by WSLer \* > \*\*As for Axl’s having plastic surgery, so fucking what??? > > Why is that something to get all bent out of shape about? > > I don’t hear anyone screeching and bleating about Janet Jackson having had her boobs and her nose done. > > If he wants to get plastic surgery and have a dick attached to his forehead, hey it’s **his** money, not yours that is being spent on the surgery. \*\* That’s cuz Janet Jackson looks good. Bad example. Maybe you shoulda used **Michael** Jackson as an example instead. Yer right, it _is_ his business whatever he does to his face, hair, whatever. But being in the public eye, and having a reputation for being a notorious asshole makes him a target for ridicule. Sorry, but that’s just the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/16 "2002-08-31T14:49:05Z")
You want to speek up, sonny? I’m a mite deef in this ear. I swear to Buddha I’m going to just chuck it all in and go out and get my Geritol and walker right now. Bucket Head? Guns N Roses touring? Axl Rose - plastic surgery? I was sure he was working at a Burger King somewhere. I think I should probably watch something on TV besides movie every once in a while. If I can paraphrase Kevin Smith – This is the pulse. And this is my finger, far away from the pulse, jammed straight up my ass. I think I’ll just go to the parlor, curl up on the davenport and take a nap. ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/17 "2002-08-31T14:52:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \* > \*\*Bucket Head? Guns N Roses touring? Axl Rose - plastic surgery? I was sure he was working at a Burger King somewhere. > \*\* Dontcha mean KFC? They need dem buckets, ya knoooooooow! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/18 "2002-08-31T17:44:29Z")
I wonder if KFC sponsers Buckethead’s Bucket? The KFC 12 piece…not just for holding extremely greasy chicken anymore ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/19 "2002-08-31T18:34:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by WSLer \* > \*\* > > If he wants to get plastic surgery and have a dick attached to his forehead, hey it’s **his** money, not yours that is being spent on the surgery. \*\* :eek: 😕 😃 What an image! Hey, Slash left GNR, but what happened to the rest of the band? ---
**Author:** ![Lockfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@Lockfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockfist)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278/20 "2002-08-31T18:42:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Intaglio \* > \*\*Maybe it’s not Axl, maybe it’s Dave Mustaine from Megadeth > it looks like him with red braids, since Dave can’t play guitar anymore, maybe he’s fronting Guns & Roses. > > Whoever that was, his vocals SUCKED, I’ve never been a fan of GnR but this was the worst, i have ever heard him, Go Away and Stay Away. > \*\* Where the hell did that come from ? Dave Mustaine is far superior to Axl in every respect. Certainly his comliness is only one area in which there is no comparison. As far as Mustaine’s voice is concerned, he still has the ability to sing everything he’s ever written as well as he did in his early years. Yikes, what a cheap shot ! Rattle Your Goddamn Head, Lockfist [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/axl-rose/126278.md?page=2)