# Ayatollah Yawuntz, a moment of your time? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527 "2013-04-01T14:03:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/41 "2013-04-03T01:18:07Z")
> [@Penny](#): > > [snip] > And thank you for the judgmental commentary on my acquaintances. [snip]. Well to be accurate it’s only a judgement on your stoner acquaintances who say things that show they are stupid beyond the effect of the dope. The ones that just want to watch cartoons and eat ho-hos are still keepers. But bin away, my opinion didn’t cost much. I can make more. ---
**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/42 "2013-04-03T01:23:52Z")
colander I read the whole thing, and the results are based on data collected from studies that include what I quoted. I also specifically said I was cherry picking. Perhaps you should read the whole thing. > [@](#): > > I’m afraid that if true, including low THC level incidents in the study would serve to make high driving seem more safe than it would if you only looked at really toasted drivers. In other words, it makes the results more damning. Huh? I don’t understand what you are saying here. How does this help to show that cannabis consumption had anything to do with the accident. > [@](#): > > By the way, as far as I know, there’s currently no THC threshold below which psychoactive effects are known to be insignificant. The stuff may very well continue to affect your reflexes for quite a while after your last toke. Tell that to Phelps and Rebagliati. ---
**Author:** ![yawuntz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a5b964/32.png) [@yawuntz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yawuntz)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/43 "2013-04-03T01:25:05Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > I dont’ wish _anyone_ any harm but if you insist on placing the lives of everyone else on the road, I don’t have very much respect for your existence… I should have addressed this earlier. Let me assure you that not only do I not insist on placing people’s lives on the road, I wouldn’t even - consider it… I meant to take up this issue in my previous post but I was posting from my iPod and some dingbat was tailgating me. Good thing I’m not the road-rage type or he would have got the free airbag test. ---
**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/44 "2013-04-03T04:24:38Z")
> [@colander](#): > > As far as I know, there’s currently no THC threshold below which psychoactive effects are known to be insignificant. The stuff may very well continue to affect your reflexes for quite a while after your last toke. Anecdotally, after short periods of daily use, I myself experience a kind of mental “fog” that can take a couple days to clear up. You got a cite on that? As far as I know, THC can show up in your blood for at least a couple weeks after smoking. I’d be astounded to see any conclusive evidence to show slowed reaction times that long afterwards. Hell, I’d be impressed if you could find a cite for significantly (as in, worse than say, being a little tired) slowed reactions after even two days. I mean, your own anecdote says a couple days, not the couple weeks that a quick google brought up for me. Here’s [one cite](http://www.ndci.org/sites/default/files/ndci/THC_Detection_Window_0.pdf) listing various time frames on page 5. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/45 "2013-04-03T19:14:09Z")
In no way was I indicating that I thought that residue equals active effects soon after having inhaled. That’s utter bullshit. I can take an opiate post-surgery. A week later traces are found in a blood test. Does it make me a heroin addict? Hardly. The cites discussing vehicular homicides committed by people of all ages while under the influence of pot have nothing to do with traces left days/ weeks after exposure to pot smoke. Even I would not think that trace amounts are anything more than a scientific curiosity to be graphed and measured. ---
**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/46 "2013-04-03T20:14:13Z")
> [@](#): > > The cites discussing vehicular homicides committed by people of all ages while under the influence of pot have nothing to do with traces left days/ weeks after exposure to pot smoke. What cites? ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/47 "2013-04-03T20:34:28Z")
> [@JFLuvly](#): > > Huh? I don’t understand what you are saying here. > > How does this help to show that cannabis consumption had anything to do with the accident. Friend, the studies selected were ones that included a marijuana-free control group to which marijuana-positive cases were compared. That is how they determine whether cannabis consumption had anything to do with the accident. > [@](#): > > Tell that to Phelps and Rebagliati. I will if they stop by to ask, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527/48 "2013-04-03T20:42:52Z")
> [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](#): > > You got a cite on that? As far as I know, THC can show up in your blood for at least a couple weeks after smoking. I’d be astounded to see any conclusive evidence to show slowed reaction times that long afterwards. Hell, I’d be impressed if you could find a cite for significantly (as in, worse than say, being a little tired) slowed reactions after even two days. I mean, your own anecdote says a couple days, not the couple weeks that a quick google brought up for me. > > Here’s [one cite](http://www.ndci.org/sites/default/files/ndci/THC_Detection_Window_0.pdf) listing various time frames on page 5. Do I have a cite that there is no agreement on what levels below which THC psychomotor effects become negligible? Well, I think a better question to ask might be if anyone can locate any studies purporting to ascertain such a threshold. If so, great! If not, then that is my cite. PS. “Being a little tired” would seem to me to be some kind of effect. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayatollah-yawuntz-a-moment-of-your-time/654527.md?page=2)