# B-25 bomber for sale

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 27, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929 "2018-05-27T22:40:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/1 "2018-05-27T22:40:26Z")

</div>

$1.4M. Not a bad price, really.

[http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n9079z-north-american-tb-25n/](http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n9079z-north-american-tb-25n/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/2 "2018-05-27T22:50:35Z")

</div>

Darn, I don’t have a good place to park one.

Can I try launching off a carrier with one?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/3 "2018-05-27T23:09:09Z")

</div>

It comes well-equipped. On the equipment list, “bombs.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/4 "2018-05-27T23:21:26Z")

</div>

> [@Musicat](#):
>
> It comes well-equipped. On the equipment list, “bombs.”

Also a “Bombay rack” for stashing your baked goods: [Standard Furniture Bombay Brown Cherry Bakers Rack | The Classy Home](https://www.theclassyhome.com/Product/STD-13429/Standard+Furniture+Bombay+Brown+Cherry+Bakers+Rack?g=t&gclid=CjwKCAjwrqnYBRB-EiwAthnBFqDgUwsaiVEx6t297euiEJHPSipvaaWOlMkSlUiJnGD81-UUzvRw4xoCXgYQAvD_BwE)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/5 "2018-05-27T23:28:24Z")

</div>

They were $96,000 brand new.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/6 "2018-05-27T23:45:01Z")

</div>

> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
>
> $1.4M. Not a bad price, really.
> 
> [http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n9079z-north-american-tb-25n/](http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n9079z-north-american-tb-25n/)

That’s actually quite a bit cheaper than I would have guessed.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/7 "2018-05-27T23:50:21Z")

</div>

> [@Morgenstern](#):
>
> They were $96,000 brand new.

Which is @ $1.7 million after inflation in today’s dollars.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/8 "2018-05-28T00:25:59Z")

</div>

I actually already have a [B-25](https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-icon-60s-b-25-acoustic-guitar).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/9 "2018-05-28T00:32:57Z")

</div>

> [@jaycat](#):
>
> I actually already have a [B-25](https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-icon-60s-b-25-acoustic-guitar).

Well I own a B-52’s album! 😛

Honestly, if I was to ever miraculously become a billionaire, I’d want my own P-51.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/10 "2018-05-28T00:43:54Z")

</div>

My father taught people to fly that plane. Definitely on the list when I hit Powerball.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/11 "2018-05-28T01:03:37Z")

</div>

> [@Musicat](#):
>
> It comes well-equipped. On the equipment list, “bombs.”

And a Norden bomb sight. I’ve always wanted to play around with one of those.

Let’s see, 1.4 million for the plane and spare parts. Figure another 100 grand to strip out the guns and put in a nice interior. You could have a pretty nice twin, seats 8-10, cruises at 200 knots. Sounds good.

Just to be clear, I wouldn’t trash the historical authenticity of the plane, but how would it be in terms of comfort, price and performance? Would passengers have to crawl over or under a wing spar in the middle of the fuselage? Whoever got the front seat would have a hell of a view.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/12 "2018-05-28T02:18:01Z")

</div>

The linked page says the aircraft is **NEW!** That’s pretty cool. The time machine that brings the new aircraft from 1944 (or whenever) is itself worth far more than the asking price, I wonder if it’s included.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/13 "2018-05-28T04:52:24Z")

</div>

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
>
> Let’s see, 1.4 million for the plane and spare parts. Figure another 100 grand to strip out the guns and put in a nice interior. You could have a pretty nice twin, seats 8-10, cruises at 200 knots. Sounds good.

Or leave the Mitchell to the keep-it-authentic crowd, and get a used [King Air 350](https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/24553957/1997-beechcraft-king-air-350) and cruise at 300 knots and carry 9 to 11 passengers. 😉

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/14 "2018-05-28T04:53:20Z")

</div>

> [@jaycat](#):
>
> I actually already have a [B-25](https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-icon-60s-b-25-acoustic-guitar).

Ah, I used to have one also. Nice little guitar.

You can also eat at a B-52: [http://b52burgersandbrew.com/](http://b52burgersandbrew.com/)

Dennis

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/15 "2018-05-28T05:38:59Z")

</div>

My friend’s dad, Willie, was an IP training pilots on the B-25 at Elgin USASAF base when he and 2 other IPs got called into the base commander’s office to be told they, their crews, and their aircraft were being assigned to do the flying for a movie about the Doolittle raid. Willie appeared briefly in “Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo” talking to the other IPs under a plane as some actors walked by. And he was flying the plane that wagged its wings when Van Johnston found out he was going to be a father.

Willie met Van Johnson and Bob Mitchum. He said Van spent a LOT of time talking long distance on the phone to his girl back in Hollywood. And that Spencer Tracy never was there at all.

So, if you had a circa WWII bomber and you wanted to fly it around, would you restore it to new 1940 status or would you modern it up? With modern electronics you wouldn’t need a radio operator or the weight of all the WWII tube equipment. I bet it’s difficult getting new parts for the original engines.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/16 "2018-05-28T12:36:19Z")

</div>

> [@Flyer](#):
>
> That’s actually quite a bit cheaper than I would have guessed.

Same thought here. A Mustang goes for $2-3 million and that’s with only one engine. Market value depends heavily on condition and hours before overhaul etc., naturally.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/17 "2018-05-28T13:45:59Z")

</div>

What does the FAA require of the instrumentation and radios in such cases? Photos of the instrument panel of B-25s I have seen have modern instruments installed.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/18 "2018-05-28T15:08:30Z")

</div>

The old tube radios did not have the correct freq for today’s modern airport & IFR work.

You would need the newer radios and if you ever flew the old instruments IFR, you would know why the newer stuff is used.

Weight, weight, weight.

That plane would not bein much demand it it was stuck outside the airshow because it could not get in either IFR or for lack of communications.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/19 "2018-05-28T17:23:26Z")

</div>

> [@Flyer](#):
>
> That’s actually quite a bit cheaper than I would have guessed.

There’s probably a catch…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/20 "2018-05-28T17:35:32Z")

</div>

> [@Gatopescado](#):
>
> There’s probably a catch…

A very slight accident involving some guys who were swimming, but it cleaned right up.

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929.md?page=2)
