# B-25 bomber for sale **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 27, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929 "2018-05-27T22:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/21 "2018-05-28T17:54:35Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Or leave the Mitchell to the keep-it-authentic crowd, and get a used [King Air 350](https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/24553957/1997-beechcraft-king-air-350) and cruise at 300 knots and carry 9 to 11 passengers. šŸ˜‰ The difficulty on light aircraft is that you _might_ be able to carry that many people, but youā€™d have to carry significantly less than a full load of fuel. The maximum payload of a new 350i at full fuel load is 1,534 pounds. For the pilot, passengers and their gear and luggage. A Piper Archer may have 4 seats, but it has a maximum useful load (fuel, passengers, etc) of 870 pounds. Full fuel is 288 pounds, leaving you 582 pounds for you, your friends and their luggage, purses, etc. Unless youā€™re all really small, youā€™re not getting four people in that thing. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/22 "2018-05-28T18:08:37Z")
Iā€™m such a geek and derive pleasure just from owning and admiring cool things that being able to purchase this would have me riding a high every damned day. Of course, I donā€™t have a pilotā€™s license, so Iā€™d have a lot of additional expenses to get that, insure the aircraft and keep it somewhere safe while I drool over it. [https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/24700307/1944-north-american-p-51-mustang](https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/24700307/1944-north-american-p-51-mustang) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/23 "2018-05-28T18:11:18Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [Pardon Our Interruption](https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/24700307/1944-north-american-p-51-mustang) [This is better](https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1439235/1945-corsair-fg-1d). šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/24 "2018-05-28T18:13:20Z")
Eh, I want a P-51. Thatā€™s just me. I also wouldnā€™t mind an F-16. šŸ˜ƒ Possibly an A-10 if the government insists on getting rid of them. Hell, Iā€™d loan it back to them in an emergency. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/25 "2018-05-28T20:17:36Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > It comes well-equipped. On the equipment list, ā€œbombs.ā€ And ā€œrecent brakesā€. From a recent decade? Recent century? ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/26 "2018-05-29T00:42:56Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > A very slight accident involving some guys who were swimming, but it cleaned right up. Letā€™s not forget the Empire State Building incident. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/27 "2018-05-29T00:45:57Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > And ā€œrecent brakesā€. > > From a recent decade? Recent century? Itā€™s like a used car sale around here. ā€œNew brakes. Air conditioner works great. $5,000ā€ And thatā€™s all they tell you. Sometimes they wonā€™t even bother mentioning anything other than the AC. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/28 "2018-05-29T01:10:03Z")
Reported for a move to the Marketplace forum. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/29 "2018-05-29T01:26:07Z")
Why? No one is selling anything here. ---
**Author:** ![D.E.S.K.Top668](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@D.E.S.K.Top668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D.E.S.K.Top668)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/30 "2018-05-29T01:43:15Z")
A B-29, not a B-25, but an interesting article from [Roadkill magazine](http://www.roadkill.com/doc-flies-story-b-29-restoration/) about what it takes to restore, certify, fly, and maintain a relic from this era. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/31 "2018-05-29T01:44:45Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > And a Norden bomb sight. Iā€™ve always wanted to play around with one of those. > > Letā€™s see, 1.4 million for the plane and spare parts. Figure another 100 grand to strip out the guns and put in a nice interior. You could have a pretty nice twin, seats 8-10, cruises at 200 knots. Sounds good. > > Just to be clear, I wouldnā€™t trash the historical authenticity of the plane, but how would it be in terms of comfort, price and performance? Would passengers have to crawl over or under a wing spar in the middle of the fuselage? Whoever got the front seat would have a hell of a view. For a birthday, Wife bought me a ride in a B-17, of similar vintage. Really LOUD. Youā€™d need a lot of sound insulation. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/32 "2018-05-29T02:03:56Z")
I could scrape up 50 gā€™s if someone has the rest. AND I think I know a place we could keep it. (Itā€™s nice having connections at the county airport) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/33 "2018-05-29T02:50:07Z")
Perfect for Harrison Ford. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/34 "2018-05-29T03:53:38Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Iā€™m such a geek and derive pleasure just from owning and admiring cool things that being able to purchase this would have me riding a high every damned day. > > Of course, I donā€™t have a pilotā€™s license, so Iā€™d have a lot of additional expenses to get that, insure the aircraft and keep it somewhere safe while I drool over it. > > [Pardon Our Interruption](https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/24700307/1944-north-american-p-51-mustang) drool. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/35 "2018-05-29T10:21:24Z")
I see Courtesy does have a Catalina for sale ā€“ no avionics and ā€œneeds fabric work and tiresā€ [http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n1943-consolidated-vultee-pby-5a/](http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n1943-consolidated-vultee-pby-5a/) Brian ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/36 "2018-05-29T11:34:27Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Same thought here. A Mustang goes for $2-3 million and thatā€™s with only one engine. Market value depends heavily on condition and hours before overhaul etc., naturally. > [@Chimera](#): > > Eh, I want a P-51. Thatā€™s just me. And thus the discrepancy in price. Assuming they are both restored, would you rather have an [SS Jaguar 100](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Jaguar_100) or a [Chevrolet Suburban Carryall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Suburban#First_generation_(1935%E2%80%931940))? Me, too. I mean, both are from around 1936 and both are the first of their kind, but so long as Iā€™m dreamingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/37 "2018-05-29T12:22:29Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > I see Courtesy does have a Catalina for sale ā€“ no avionics and ā€œneeds fabric work and tiresā€ > [http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n1943-consolidated-vultee-pby-5a/](http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n1943-consolidated-vultee-pby-5a/) > > Brian Iā€™ve seen pictures of PBYs set up for civilains, almost always involving girls wearing bikinis reclining in the blister. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/38 "2018-05-29T19:20:44Z")
Catalina donā€™t need no stinkinā€™ tires! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/39 "2018-05-29T19:57:10Z")
Gotta wonder about the back story here. \*Panchito \*has been working the air show circuit pretty hard for years now. Are the gigs (that pay the maintenance and fuel costs) drying up? Are spare parts just getting too hard to find anymore (a common warbird problem)? Or are her owner and crew just getting tired of it? ---
**Author:** ![RadioWave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RadioWave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadioWave)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929/40 "2018-05-29T20:08:56Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Would passengers have to crawl over or under a wing spar in the middle of the fuselage? Whoever got the front seat would have a hell of a view. I got to crawl through one a few weeks ago at the local air show and damn are they difficult to move around inside. You canā€™t take two steps without having to turn, twist, pivot and squeeze past a motor or turret. The only place you can walk six feet unimpeded is when youā€™re tiptoeing across the 4 inch wide beam through the bomb bay. I donā€™t think your beverage cart will make it through. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-25-bomber-for-sale/814929.md?page=3)