# B-52 crash question

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 15, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919 "2026-06-15T19:50:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/1 "2026-06-15T19:51:00Z")

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What model of B-52 just crashed at Edwards AFB today right after takeoff?

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**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/2 "2026-06-15T20:04:33Z")

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I think you mean which variant. It was probably a B-52H assigned to the 419th Test Squadron based at Edwards. I haven’t seen it reported anywhere, that is just speculation based on the units assigned to Edwards.

ETA: This article confirms that the currently flown version is the B-52H  
[B-52 bomber crashes shortly after takeoff at California’s Edwards Air Force Base, military says | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/15/us/b-52-crash-edwards-california)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/3 "2026-06-15T20:28:51Z")

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Current USAF inventory is 100% H models. They retired the last G in 2013.

[https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/467809/final-b-52g-eliminated-under-new-start/](https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/467809/final-b-52g-eliminated-under-new-start/)

Of any of the earlier models, only the D was in service within my lifetime, including a lot of bombs dropped in Viet Nam, but they retired in 1983.

> **[40 Years ago the USAF retired the last B-52D, the BUFF model used to bomb...](https://theaviationgeekclub.com/40-years-ago-the-usaf-retired-the-last-b-52d-the-buff-model-used-to-bomb-north-vietnamese-targets-during-christmas-bombing-operation-linebacker-ii/)**
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> 40 Years ago the USAF retired the last B-52D, the BUFF model used to bomb North Vietnamese targets during Operation Linebacker II

> The last B-52D was retired in October, 1983.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/4 "2026-06-15T20:31:12Z")

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It is this specific plane

> **[This Is What The B-52's New Radar Looks Like](https://www.twz.com/air/this-is-what-the-b-52s-new-radar-looks-like)**
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> The B-52's new AN/APQ-188 active electronically scanned array radar is critical to the bomber's future relevance.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/5 "2026-06-15T20:32:38Z")

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What about the B-52Js? Are there still none?  
I thought they were all suppose to be upgraded to J by 2030?

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/6 "2026-06-15T20:34:13Z")

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The J is still in development. I suppose flying out of Edwards (which is an Air Force Materiel Command flight testing base), it could have been modded (partially, at least) to J standards (especially if what @Darren_Garrison cited is accurate; that’s the J model radar upgrade).

I don’t see a definitive connection between the upgrade article and the crash, which would be specifying the serial number or tail number of the A/C in question, but I’m willing to guess that the incident A/C is the same as the upgrade article one. Based at Edwards for a months-long integration testing campaign.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/7 "2026-06-15T20:34:25Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> What about the B-52Js? Are there still none?  
> I thought they were all suppose to be upgraded to J by 2030?

From the article I just linked:

> The new radar is just one facet of the comprehensive upgrade program now in development for the B-52 that will end in the jet receiving the B-52J designation.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/8 "2026-06-15T20:36:36Z")

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Your post wasn’t there when I was typing. But thanks for the article. It looks like probably none are yet designated J. They might not make their goal or even come close to making it.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/9 "2026-06-15T20:40:19Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> especially if what @Darren_Garrison cited is accurate

That page was linked in the page I linked in the aviation omnibus thread

> News of the crash first emerged in a post on the unofficial Air Force amn/nco/snco Facebook group. That post said the aircraft in question was tail number 061, but this is currently unconfirmed. While its status is unclear, this particular B-52 was the first to receive a new AN/APQ-188 active electronically-scanned array (AESA) radar, which is one part of a much larger modernization effort for the entire fleet of these bombers.

(Which I found by googling news after seeing a Facebook post about it.)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/10 "2026-06-15T20:42:35Z")

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Alright, I’m convinced. Their testbed bird for the J model radar upgrade has gone down. I hope the crew got out.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/11 "2026-06-15T21:46:10Z")

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Just asking because I worked on the D model when I was a Junior Birdman back in the late 70’s, and wondered what the current buff was up to.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/12 "2026-06-16T11:06:07Z")

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FWIW, the H models, the last factory models, were produced from the tail end of 1960 through 1962. So Hs were out there when you were in; you just had the luck to draw the oldest of the oldies, not the newest of the soon to be oldies.

Everything about B-52s since 1962 (IOW the last 64 (!) years) has been about parking the Gs and earlier and slowly, eternally ship-of-Theseus upgrading the Hs again and again and again. While, so far, retaining the H designation.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/13 "2026-06-16T11:33:07Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> I hope the crew got out.

News outlets are reporting that all 8 crew members were killed.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-52-crash-question/1030919/14 "2026-06-16T12:24:36Z")

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A standard B-52 cockpit carries 6 people. All on ejection seats. Two of which fire downward out the bottom of the fuselage. Any additional crew members would need to a) wear a parachute, and b) walk / clamber to an exterior hatch, open it, jump out, and pull their ripcord.

None of that is compatible with escaping an airplane out of control close to the ground.
