# \[b\]Alice\_in\_Wonderland, you can't be serious **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218 "2004-02-26T02:09:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/41 "2004-02-27T22:07:31Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > I see what you’re saying, and I understand where you’re coming from. But it was your contention that Canada has no oil, which is absolutely incorrect. You said nothing about reserves. > > If that was the point you were making, why didn’t you make it the first time? I think that was what he was referring to the first time. Bush is not such an idiot that he would let Canada get invaded, even to “punish” them for opposing the Iraq War. Even if Canada deserved it (like they unprovokedly nuked Shanghai and Moscow and China and Russia were out for revenge) the US would probably stop the invasion(while also kicking some idiot Canadian PM butt) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/42 "2004-02-27T22:19:55Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Oh, come on-- admit it… You Albertans would be right at home in the Union. You already have the rodeos, cowboy boots & hats, the zeal for beef, and the oil industry, with its attendant mystical reverance of propane and propane accessories. > > \ I’ll have you know I have no cowboy hat OR boots. Okay, I do like beef and barbequeing, though. Mmmmm, propane. You know, **Boo Boo** , I’ve often wondered about that. Seems to me like it would be hard for a nation trying to conquer Canada to even _find_ us Canadians should we take to the hills. Maybe that’s what we should be concentrating on - developing our guerilla warfare tactics. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2004, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/43 "2004-02-28T06:46:13Z")
> [@CheekyMonkey613](#): > > Mind your own fucking business and work on your own country instead of bitching about others. So, we should pull out of the UN and NATO and quit sending foreign aid around the world until we’re doing well economically and socially? I think _that_ would be a rather interesting proposition to have to pitch to the world. To answer the rest of your post: You really have no idea what I’m talking about, do you? I never once mentioned the Second Iraq War. I was against it, in fact. But that doesn’t fit into your little mental model of me, so therefore it Doesn’t Exist. It Isn’t True, in your mind. I also think we should leave Iraq right now if not three months ago and let the region heal over. It isn’t in our best interests to nation-build, simply because we always fuck it up. The only nation the US ever built right was the US. Once again, my point: The world acts in its own self-interest 100% of the time. This is how the US acts, as well. If Canada was to be invaded, the US’s self interest would dictate that we repel that invasion and render the source of that invasion harmless. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2004, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/44 "2004-02-28T07:01:37Z")
It’s funny that some people would think that there’s a chance the Bush admin wouldn’t come to Canada’s defense. If they were attacked the tanks would roll and the jets would launch. It’s getting those tanks and planes out of Canada AFTER the war was over that would be the big problem. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2004, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/45 "2004-02-28T09:12:38Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > If that was the point you were making, why didn’t you make it the first time? Because I thought you were bright enough to see it the first time – especially since everyone else did. Guess I’ll have to revise my assessment of you accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2004, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/46 "2004-02-28T11:04:09Z")
Iraq may have more oil than Canada but the US imports almost [four times](http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/crudebycountry.htm) as much from the latter as it does from the former. Why exactly would we not want to invade a neighboring country (as opposed to one on the other side of the world) if oil was the only reason we waged war? ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2004, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/47 "2004-02-28T11:17:35Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Very good, **Doors,** you’ve found Google. :rolleyes: Too bad you didn’t. :rolleyes: Apparently now that they have technologies that allow the oilsands to be exploited they can start booking reserves. Current technology allows production at $10 a barrel. So, as long as the price of oil stays above that level then it is viable. Interesting in that we could replace North America’s need for middle eastern oil entirely. I’m predicting Alberta will be tax and debt free within ten years. And most likely a separate country within 20 years when the federal government tries to pick our pockets again with a new NEP when they see us raking in the cash. [Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers](http://www.capp.ca/default.asp?V_DOC_ID=688) [Reserves for Alberta](http://www.petroleumnews.com/pnarch/030223-13.html) [Alberta listed #2 in oil reserves in the World](http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/osd/docs/osgenbrf.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2004, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/48 "2004-02-29T08:19:31Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Iraq may have more oil than Canada but the US imports almost [four times](http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/crudebycountry.htm) as much from the latter as it does from the former. And I’m sure that fact will change now that Saddam is no longer in control and Haliburton is. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/49 "2004-02-29T16:21:55Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Oh, come on-- admit it… You Albertans would be right at home in the Union. You already have the rodeos, cowboy boots & hats, the zeal for beef, and the oil industry, with its attendant mystical reverance of propane and propane accessories. > > Of course, it _would_ suck for us British Columbians, since Canada’s decent Arts & Culture doesn’t really extend past Alberta’s western border. ☹ Nope, nope, nope. I’m not one of the funny boots an’ hats crowd either. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2004, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/50 "2004-02-29T18:05:52Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > And most likely a separate country within 20 years when the federal government tries to pick our pockets again with a new NEP when they see us raking in the cash. Oh, get over it, for God’s sake. That happened 20 goddamned years ago. I swear, some of you Albertans are worse whiners than the BQ. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218/51 "2004-03-01T05:14:27Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Oh, get over it, for God’s sake. That happened 20 goddamned years ago. I swear, some of you Albertans are worse whiners than the BQ. Well, when you send us a check for the amount stolen I’d think about it. But this really is another thread. [http://collections.ic.gc.ca/abpolitics/events/issues\_nep.html](http://collections.ic.gc.ca/abpolitics/events/issues_nep.html) [http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied\_history/tutor/calgary/energycrisis.html](http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/calgary/energycrisis.html) [http://www.freealberta.com/transfer\_payments.html](http://www.freealberta.com/transfer_payments.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-alice_in_wonderland-you-cant-be-serious/231218.md?page=2)