# \[B\]glee\[/B\], you lying sack of shit! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 22, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551 "2004-10-22T03:55:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/61 "2004-10-23T06:42:12Z")
> [@](#): > > claiming a lack of reaserch, published papers And yet again, I never once said they did no research, nor did I say they had never published. Please, if it’s not too much trouble, look at what I actually write, rather than what you wan t to see to score points. ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/62 "2004-10-23T06:50:58Z")
> [@andros](#): > > And yet again, I never once said they did no research, nor did I say they had never published. Please, if it’s not too much trouble, look at what I actually write, rather than what you wan t to see to score points. **andros,** come on. How can you really imagine I’m trying to score points here? I’m about the most in-your-face- person outside of **Dio**. I’m not here to score points, make friends or pad my post count, as everyone tells me. I look at what everyone writes, and I’m not alone in misinterpreting posts; I’m constantly beseiged by people who tell me what I said (when I said something totally different). Now you owe me the apology – assuming I’m trying to score points! Look at this whole thread! How can you assume I’m trying to score points?? For what? From whom??? Get real. What I want to see? No. It’s what I see. I often have a hard time figuring out what people are saying. I just do the best I can. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/63 "2004-10-23T08:08:08Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > All the trolls have come out of their holes, trolling about with baseless allegations. “Do not publicly accuse someone of trolling at the SDMB.” — Arnold Winkelried, SDMB Administrator [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2670336&postcount=13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2670336&postcount=13) > [@](#): > > We still await **glee,** to see what comments e has on it, if any. E may be busy, I don’t think e’s the kind to hide even if e realized e did fuck up. Glee is a high level black belt martial artist. Not only does that mean that he isn’t hiding from you, it means that he has the self-control to refrain from stooping to your level. > [@](#): > > Misattributions are difficult to do on accident; this looks like (with the spacing differences) that it might have been a cut and paste job. Still, everyone else is _so_ glad to come and shoot their mouths off, least you could do is thank me! (Ungrateful cunts), and we wait for **glee** , so we can see, if e deliberately trashed me… You are a dumbass, a dipshit, and a dickweed. You would have to study and work hard for years to rise to the level of Glee’s turds. > [@](#): > > Please cuntinue, this is fun! For you, maybe. For us, it’s like bashing an empty pinata. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/64 "2004-10-23T12:43:58Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > In h profile, of course. Ooops…I didn’t realize that profiles contain information as to a doper’s sex. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/65 "2004-10-23T16:23:43Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > What I want to see? No. It’s what I see. I often have a hard time figuring out what people are saying. I just do the best I can. **And that’s my point.** See, my specious and silly attack on you was no more specious and silly than your attack on **glee**. Get it? If you realize you have a hard time figuring out what people mean, why act like an asshole about it, instead of figuring out what it is they mean? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/66 "2004-10-23T21:54:02Z")
IIRC, **glee** is of the male gender. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/67 "2004-10-23T23:02:27Z")
First thanks to all the pleasant people who posted here! Now to Snakespirit. Here is a post you made in the ‘dry spots’ thread, also in the Pit: > [@Snakespirit](#): > > > [@Peter Morris](#): > > > > There are at least two morals to all this. > > > > 1. Randi talks a load of hogwash. “Scientific” information he gives is likely to be wrong. He tells of offering tests to dowsers and the dowsers refuse. Such stories are sometimes works of fiction, figures of speech, or utter lies. > > > > 2. Somebody applying for a test, with a genuine ability, willing to show it, is likely to find Randi unwilling to test it fairly. Negotiating a protocol with Randi is well-nigh impossible. Randi deliberately obstructs the matter at every turn. > > Just so you know, Peter, although I don’t necessarily agree with all you say, or with your methods. I do agree with you about Randi. (The above is post 206 if that helps.) I know that Peter Morris sprays allegations around without any evidence or cites. Since you stated above that you did agree with him, I thought **you** might be able to provide a cite instead. My post was 236. I left one ‘quote’ off, although it was perfectly obvious what I meant. Instead of providing cites, you produce an over the top response. So what is your evidence that Randi: - talks a load of hogwash - gives wrong scientific information - lies about dowsing tests - is unlikely to test fairly - makes it nigh-impossible to negotiate a protocol? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/68 "2004-10-23T23:03:56Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > You are a dumbass, a dipshit, and a dickweed. You would have to study and work hard for years to rise to the level of Glee’s turds. I will have to fight hard the temptation to make this my signature. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/69 "2004-10-23T23:05:43Z")
> [@wring](#): > > IIRC, **glee** is of the male gender. Indeed I am. I note that **you** are of the intelligent persuasion. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/70 "2004-10-23T23:37:54Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Indeed I am. > > I note that **you** are of the intelligent persuasion. right back atchya, sir. ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/71 "2004-10-24T01:08:07Z")
> [@glee](#): > > My post was 236. > I left one ‘quote’ off, although it was perfectly obvious what I meant. > > Instead of providing cites, you produce an over the top response. > > So what is your evidence \? Well, thanks for showing up. I was beginning to think you were avoiding us. Although \*to you \* it was perfectly obvious what you meant, to a third party it looks like I was the author of those phrases, which is a falsehood. If I did something like this to you, you’d have a conniption fit. So now that you admit you made a misattribution, are you saying that the misattribution was an accident? Or are you saying it was deliberate? Answer my question and I’ll answer yours. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/72 "2004-10-24T01:15:57Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > Well, thanks for showing up. I was beginning to think you were avoiding us. Who’s “us?” In case you hadn’t noticed, everyone posting here thinks you’re an idiot, at best. You might want to stop digging. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/73 "2004-10-24T01:21:55Z")
Snake, it is tme for you to take your meds. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/74 "2004-10-24T07:51:56Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > Well, thanks for showing up. I was beginning to think you were avoiding us. Are you plural? 😕 Or do you think **anyone** agrees with you? :smack: > [@Early Out](#): > > Who’s “us?” In case you hadn’t noticed, everyone posting here thinks you’re an idiot, at best. Next: > [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > (bolding by Glee) > Although \*to you \* it was perfectly obvious what you meant, **to a third party it looks like I was the author of those phrases** , which is a falsehood. If I did something like this to you, you’d have a conniption fit. > > So now that you admit you made a misattribution, are you saying that the misattribution was an accident? Or are you saying it was deliberate? > > Answer my question and I’ll answer yours. > [@QED](#): > > Oh, please. Clearly he erred in attributing those quotes to you, nevertheless, the intent of the post is quite obvious even to the most feeble-minded of readers. Whether you made the statements in question or simply agree with them is immaterial to the point **glee** was trying to get across. > [@wring](#): > > the thread itself held no interest to me, but I checked out the last page, just in case. > so, glee misattributed a quote? Instead of, in the thread saying “dude, that wasn’t me, it was some one else”, you instead open up a new thread to call him a liar? > schmuck. > [@berkut](#): > > Dude, chill. It was probably an honest mistake. > [@QED](#): > > He just wanted to hear you reasoning for agreeing with Peter Morris’ statements about Randi. Given that Peter Morris has never (to my knowledge) adequately explained the reasoning behind his statements about Randi, I suspect that glee was hoping you might be able to. Or not. Whatever. > [@Miller](#): > > The reason that this allegation isn’t the true one is, and it’s important you pay very close attention here, it’s completely fucking stupid. First of all, people mistake who said what all the time on the boards. Probably happens every day, somewhere on the boards. It’s a commonplace error. Secondly, there’s no reason for glee to lie. She stands to gain nothing by it. Thirdly, there’s no way she’d get away with it. The post she quoted from is right there in that thread, with someone else’s name on it. If she had some nefarious, pit-worthy reason to try to fool people into thinking you’d said something you hadn’t, she’s going to get caught, no matter what. You’d have to be pretty stupid to think that would work. > > But then, that’s your speciality, isn’t it? So let’s see your evidence, lonely idiot SnakeSpirit\*, for your allegation about third parties. Even people who have no interest in the thread know what happened! Anyone wading through the thread would see the discrepancy between posts 206 and 236. \*a new name for **you** , to save time. Whenever people see a contribution by you, they will instantly realise what it’s worth. But of course **you** have run into trouble here at the SDMB. We are here ‘to stamp out ignorance’. That’s a perfect definition of your level of knowledge. :rolleyes: We ‘like a cite’. You agreed with a load of unfounded allegations about James Randi. Most of them were refuted by a link I made earlier in the thread. But you’re too f\*cking stupid to notice. :wally For the rest, we await your ‘evidence’. I can just picture the scene at your computer (using my PSI powers, which curiously have been unaffected by suggestion): Slowly tracing each word on the screen with his finger, and mumbling it aloud, lonely idiot SnakeSpirit finally realises that his pathetic waffle about a misattributed\*\* cite has been overwhelmingly\*\* refuted. (\*\*for the benefit of third parties, I am not for one moment suggesting lonely idiot SnakeSpirit knows what these words mean) Lonely idiot SnakeSpirit ‘thinks’ for a long time, dribble coming out of his mouth. What can he do? There is nothing to back up his rudeness to Randi. He ‘thinks’ for a long time, dribble coming out of his mouth. Ooooh! (A stray thought has finally entered the cavernous emptiness that is lonely idiot SnakeSpirit’s skull.) What if **instead of answering** , he asked if Glee **meant** to make the mistake. Lonely idiot SnakeSpirit dances with joy. :eek: At last those bigheads on the SDMB will feel the might of lonely idiot SnakeSpirit’s intellicked … interlinked … interHannibalLecter … He ‘thinks’ for a long time, dribble coming out of his mouth. Finally he leans forward, one finger hovering above the keyboard for ages before descending. Sweat covers his brow and he bites his lip in concentration. Yes! Lonely idiot SnakeSpirit has typed a single letter. He ‘thinks’ for a long time, dribble coming out of his mouth. Soon it will be time to type another letter. As soon as his mind stops wandering… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/75 "2004-10-24T09:44:25Z")
“Well,” said the Austrian Emperor, “there 'tis.” ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/76 "2004-10-24T11:28:07Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Are you plural? 😕 > Or do you think **anyone** agrees with you? There is one, I can assure you. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/77 "2004-10-24T11:47:57Z")
What exactly do you agree with him \*about \* — that a man who inadvertently drops a quote tag is a “lying sack of shit”? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/78 "2004-10-24T11:49:31Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > What exactly do you agree with him \*about \* — that a man who inadvertently drops a quote tag is a “lying sack of shit”? Okay, that was _slightly_ OTT. But, you know, that he’s a good guy and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/79 "2004-10-24T12:18:58Z")
> [@SimonX](#): > > Pshaw and pfft. > That thread’s nothing. > Here’s the grandaddy of such threads: > > **[Contact with the Great Beyond–Psychics like Praagh](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=156629&highlight=praagh)** Oh vomit… Here I was, happy in my complete denial of that thread… I can’t believe I responded so many times to it… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551/80 "2004-10-24T12:20:02Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Okay, that was _slightly_ OTT. But, you know, that he’s a good guy and stuff. But you don’t actually agree with him about this thread? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/b-glee-b-you-lying-sack-of-shit/270551.md?page=5)