# ...Babylon 5 to return with JMS at the helm

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [September 28, 2021, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497 "2021-09-28T09:13:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/81 "2021-10-03T16:16:46Z")

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Well, she did get a number of episodes off.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/82 "2021-10-04T14:28:10Z")

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Just realized I’d mixed up the names of Marcus and Byron, and was wondering why everyone hated that sweet Ranger dude.

Then the last few posts reminded me it was PsyFabio that was Byron.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/83 "2021-10-04T17:36:37Z")

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Oh, yeah, Marcus was great.

“Life’s not fair, and that’s a good thing. Because if life were fair, that would mean that all the bad things that happen to us were our fault, and how horrible would that be?”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/84 "2021-10-04T17:51:42Z")

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Marcus was Byronic.

Byron, on the other hand, was just an asshole.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/85 "2021-10-04T18:55:12Z")

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Marcus Cole : _I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair . Then I thought, ‘wouldn’t it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?’ So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe._

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/86 "2021-10-04T18:59:48Z")

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Or:  
**Cole** : The Minbari say the only way to understand the battle is to understand the language. War is as much concept as execution.

**Franklin** : What else did they teach you?

**Cole** : Delight, respect, compassion. That for your actions to be pure they must proceed from direction, determination, patience and strength. I’m afraid I’m still working on patience. They taught me how to live, how to breathe, how to fight and how to die. And they taught me terror. How to use it. And how to face it.

**Franklin** : I think I’d like to hear more about that.

**Cole** : No. You wouldn’t.

And of course

You see? It’s like I’ve always said: “You can get more with a kind word and a two-by-four than you can with just a kind word.”

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/87 "2021-10-04T19:03:38Z")

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There is a category of character actor who’s talent gets overlooked and then they get that one role that makes you realize how good they really are. B5 had Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/88 "2021-10-04T20:11:34Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Marcus was Byronic.

I think he was more of a Keats, being sinless and all.

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**Author:** ![Allecher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@Allecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Allecher)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/89 "2022-02-04T21:57:38Z")

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It sounds like the project hit a bump recently when the CW channel was sold, but Straczynski reports that he has been assured that the [pilot is still going to happen](https://www.engadget.com/babylon-5-reboot-cw-still-alive-103501531.html) although delayed to 2023.

It wouldn’t be Babylon 5 if everything went smoothly.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/90 "2022-02-04T22:52:48Z")

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> [@Allecher](#):
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> It wouldn’t be Babylon 5 if everything went smoothly.

“Faith manages.”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/91 "2022-02-04T22:54:32Z")

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Kaboom. What? Eventually there’s always a kaboom.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/92 "2022-02-04T22:58:42Z")

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“I’m Russian. We understand such things.”

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/93 "2022-02-05T06:14:16Z")

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Very sad life. Probably have very sad death. But at least there is symmetry.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/94 "2022-02-05T07:01:49Z")

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When the long night comes, return to the end of the beginning.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/95 "2023-05-04T19:11:52Z")

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We’re getting an animated movie.

> **[A Beloved And Underrated Sci-Fi Series Is Getting An Animated Adaptation](https://gamerant.com/babylon-5-animated-movie-warner-bros/)**
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> A series that helped inspire games like Mass Effect is about to get a long-awaited continuation, and the original creator is on board.

I don’t have time to check right now so I’m not sure if this is all we’re getting or this is expected to build an audience for a show that’s still coming.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/96 "2023-07-21T19:14:16Z")

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JMS says one person held back Babylon 5 for 20+ years.

> **[Babylon 5 Creator Says a Single Warner Bros. Executive Stopped the Show’s...](https://www.ign.com/articles/babylon-5-creator-says-a-single-warner-bros-executive-stopped-the-shows-comeback-for-close-to-20-years)**
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> Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski has revealed that a single executive put Babylon 5 on the back burner... but now they've retired, the "floodgates opened".

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/97 "2023-07-21T19:18:23Z")

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Man, fuck that guy.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/98 "2023-07-21T19:19:07Z")

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Oh, and some actual new news, though not about the reboot:

> **['Babylon 5' is finally coming to Blu-ray | Engadget](https://www.engadget.com/babylon-5-is-finally-coming-to-blu-ray-093539925.html)**
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> All 110 episodes and its pilot TV movie will be available in HD..

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/babylon-5-to-return-with-jms-at-the-helm/951497/99 "2023-07-21T21:28:13Z")

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With the reworked CGI, yay!

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