# Bachmann announces she's running **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 14, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382 "2011-06-14T01:22:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/381 "2011-07-10T16:14:02Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > Why all the fuss about Bachmann running for POTUS? I have it from a high-placed source in the government, speaking on the record and for attribution, that she was [post=13750220]born[/post] in [thread=607211]Canada[/thread]. That settles everything, doesn’t it? 😉 Questionable… Because even if she was, if her parents were citizens, she’d still be eligible Oh, by the way, this would also have applied to Obama even if the whacky, insane theories of birthers were true. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/382 "2011-07-10T16:38:53Z")
Woosh. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/383 "2011-07-10T16:48:37Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Actually it says gay in the websites header, if you clicked on the link provided… > > Not that there’s anything wrong with that. So does [gayot.com](http://gayot.com). All this time I’ve been getting my restaurant recommendations from a buncha queers? ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/384 "2011-07-11T04:54:02Z")
RR, there’s a recent Rolling Stone article about Michelle Bachmann entitled “Holy War.”. I’m on my phone and don’t have the link, but it’s easy enough to find. The reason I’m directing this to you is because of your comments about her gaffes being innocuous and thinking people are making too big a deal of it. The article really touches on a lot of this, and I’m interested in your feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/385 "2011-07-11T05:20:31Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > RR, there’s a recent Rolling Stone article about Michelle Bachmann entitled “Holy War.”. I’m on my phone and don’t have the link, but it’s easy enough to find. The reason I’m directing this to you is because of your comments about her gaffes being innocuous and thinking people are making too big a deal of it. The article really touches on a lot of this, and I’m interested in your feedback. Here’s the [link](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/michele-bachmanns-holy-war-20110622) for you, **Indygrrl**. Reading that article makes me think that Heinlein was right - except about [Nehmiah Schudder](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_This_Goes_On%E2%80%94)’s gender. :shudder: ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/386 "2011-07-11T07:03:58Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > RR, there’s a recent Rolling Stone article about Michelle Bachmann entitled “Holy War.”. I’m on my phone and don’t have the link, but it’s easy enough to find. The reason I’m directing this to you is because of your comments about her gaffes being innocuous and thinking people are making too big a deal of it. The article really touches on a lot of this, and I’m interested in your feedback. I read that and am very glad I can use it as another case against religious politicians. 😃 WORST law school in the country, found Jesus at 16, jealous of the 9 new step-siblings, crouching in the bushes at a Gay Pride parade… it’s endless! My personal favorite quote, ( and I’d like to hear Recovering Republican’s reply on this too ): "It is horrific to know that in the African American community, 50 percent of all African American pregnancies in the United States end in abortion, 50 percent. That is a genocide of African Americans of the United States. It should not be. There are Americans all across this country who would love to adopt African American babies, but they can’t because 50 percent of all African American pregnancies today are ending in abortion.‘’ Another is: "There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.‘’ Also: ‘‘Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.’’ And finally: “But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.” My friend’s kid is 11 and he said she’s full of it because the founding fathers had slaves. He’s a thinking person, too bad he can’t vote (yet). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/387 "2011-07-11T09:54:24Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > RR, there’s a recent Rolling Stone article about Michelle Bachmann entitled “Holy War.”. I’m on my phone and don’t have the link, but it’s easy enough to find. The reason I’m directing this to you is because of your comments about her gaffes being innocuous and thinking people are making too big a deal of it. The article really touches on a lot of this, and I’m interested in your feedback. Okay- I found it. Starts off with a cartoon of Bachmann in Armor burning what I am guessing are liberal or gays at the stake. So that kind of sets the tone for the thing. It’s full of a lot of inflammetory rhetoric, such as “retro-Stepford” and " Junior Anti-Sex League-type outfit" to describe (villify) her community and associations. So it’s really just a hit piece,when you get right down to it. I don’t think she’s the best candidate to run and there are things that worry me about her, to be quite frank. (I think Rick Perry would be a vastly stronger candidate.) But most of the objection to her seem to come from people who aren’t going to vote for any Republican, and I think we’ve seen the folly of trying to get the Democrats to like you. (i.e. John McCain). ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/388 "2011-07-11T10:02:06Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > My personal favorite quote, ( and I’d like to hear Recovering Republican’s reply on this too ): "It is horrific to know that in the African American community, 50 percent of all African American pregnancies in the United States end in abortion, 50 percent. That is a genocide of African Americans of the United States. It should not be. There are Americans all across this country who would love to adopt African American babies, but they can’t because 50 percent of all African American pregnancies today are ending in abortion.‘’ > > 😃 I hear this quote or varients of it across the right wing, usually with a quote reminding us that Margerat Sanger (the founder of planned Parenthood) was a advocate of eugenics (before Hitler gave the whole concept a bad name.) I think it’s disingenuous because if the abortion rate is higher in the African American community, it’s because they don’t have ready access to other forms of brith control. My own thought on abortion is this. It’s legality has no real bearing on its occurance. There was not a huge drop in the abortion rate in 1973 after _Roe v. Wade_ legalized it, which indicates to me that they were going on at about the same rate all along. So the notion you can overturn _Roe_ and there’d be oodles of babies available for adoption is just plain silly. If the Bachmanns of the world were really interested in reducing the number of abortions, they’d be for universal health care, and fair wages. Most European countries not only pay for the abortions, but they pay for those other things, and they have half as many abortions as we do. (Yes, one of my more liberal views is we should have universal health care.) ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/389 "2011-07-11T10:55:08Z")
Okay, time to panic… > **[Opinion: Michele Bachmann: While you weren't looking, she's taken over the...](https://www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/top-of-the-ticket/story/2011-07-11/opinion-michele-bachmann-while-you-werent-looking-shes-taken-over-the-gop-lead-in-iowa)** > > This article was originally on a blog post platform and may be missing photos, graphics or links. > [@](#): > > Bachmann, an Iowa native who now represents a district in Minnesota, has built a xxx lead over former Gov. Mitt Romney, who is focusing more on New Hampshire after a bitter and costly defeat in Iowa in 2008. Romney holds a huge lead in Granite state polls, although Bachmann has surged there too. > > According to the new [IowaRepublican.com](http://IowaRepublican.com) poll, Bachmann has built a four point lead over Romney, 25-21. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/390 "2011-07-11T11:47:58Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Okay, time to panic… > > [Opinion: Michele Bachmann: While you weren't looking, she's taken over the GOP lead in Iowa](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/michele-bachmann-iowa-poll-lead.html) “Bachmann, an Iowa native who now represents a district in Minnesota, has built a xxx lead over former Gov. Mitt Romney” XXX lead? Did she gets her tits out or something? ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/391 "2011-07-11T11:50:19Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > “Bachmann, an Iowa native who now represents a district in Minnesota, has built a xxx lead over former Gov. Mitt Romney” > XXX lead? Did she gets her tits out or something? I wasn’t sure what that was, either… but it was in the original text of the article. I thought about editing it out, but decided against it. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/392 "2011-07-11T12:20:25Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > I wasn’t sure what that was, either… but it was in the original text of the article. I thought about editing it out, but decided against it. Yeah, I realise it wasn’t you that came up with it. It is just … weird. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/393 "2011-07-11T16:56:42Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Or she’s just saying things you don’t like. > > Heck, they’re politicians. They ALL lie. They all twist the truth. I did not write the article it was not about things I don’t like. She was lying. She said she did not receive any government money from the farm. it was a lie. If you believe all politicians are all the same and all lie , then why do you bother getting in political debates? Everything you offer as an example, is predicated on a lie. You should silently give up. With that premise there is no hope. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/394 "2011-07-11T17:00:23Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Okay- I found it. > > Starts off with a cartoon of Bachmann in Armor burning what I am guessing are liberal or gays at the stake. So that kind of sets the tone for the thing. > > It’s full of a lot of inflammetory rhetoric, such as “retro-Stepford” and " Junior Anti-Sex League-type outfit" to describe (villify) her community and associations. > > So it’s really just a hit piece,when you get right down to it. > > I don’t think she’s the best candidate to run and there are things that worry me about her, to be quite frank. (I think Rick Perry would be a vastly stronger candidate.) > > But most of the objection to her seem to come from people who aren’t going to vote for any Republican, and I think we’ve seen the folly of trying to get the Democrats to like you. (i.e. John McCain). The article may be biased, but it brings up a ton of things she has told boldfaced lies about. The things written about her in this article are factual, even if they use unflattering descriptions of her outfits and such. IMO, there is simply too much batshit crazy to ignore. Yes, all politicians sidestep issues and get creative with the truth, but how many spew one giant lie after another without being called on it? It’s evident that Bachmann only intends to address the questions she wants and will do anything she can to avoid being put on the spot. I mean, accusing two older ladies of “trapping” her in a bathroom just because they wanted her to answer their questions? That is insanity. As much as I dislike Republicans in their current iteration, I would think they’d want better for themselves, and not glom on to a candidate like Bachmann just to stick it to Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/395 "2011-07-11T17:51:45Z")
[http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/11/bachmann-denies-marriage-pledge-was-about-slavery/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/11/bachmann-denies-marriage-pledge-was-about-slavery/) Bachmann gleefully signed a pledge this weekend. It said that blacks were better off during slavery because they had 2 parents. (that is not true). It also outlaws porn.and gay marriage. It panders to the Tea Bagger types, who change history when it suits their crazy ideas. Now that the public is up in arms over the pact, she is backtracking on it. That is typical Bachmann. Not very careful and not thoughtful. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/396 "2011-07-11T18:14:13Z")
Yeah, Gonzomax, you’ve mentioned that a few times already. I believe there’s also a Pit thread about it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/397 "2011-07-11T19:18:53Z")
She is the clown princess of the Republican Party. The sooner they get away from her, the better off they will be. ---
**Author:** ![galveston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/41988e/32.png) [@galveston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galveston)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/398 "2011-07-11T19:39:28Z")
Bachmann will be smeared by the most despicable lies and half-truths by media outlets that claim to engage in journalism. The criticisms that I read here are not based on her policies or agenda. Instead of insults, tell us exactly what you don’t like about those things so there can be a real discussion. Bachmann is hated by the Left, and not particularly liked by the Republican Establishment. Not only is she willing to call out the Democrats on their policies, but she is willing to do the same for the Republicans, when she sees the need to do so. What she has going for her is the support of a huge grass-roots movement, sometimes insultingly called “tea baggers”, a homosexual term. Many independents like her too, so she is a serious candidate. Incidentally, some of you need to include Fox News and Newsweek into your information mix. Your bias is showing. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/399 "2011-07-11T19:44:41Z")
> [@galveston](#): > > The criticisms that I read here are not based on her policies or agenda. Her policies are nonsensical and ill-considered. Her agenda, as far as I can tell, is to destroy the lives of those who disagree with her–gays, and blacks, and non-Christians, among others. I’d rather stick my head in the toilet bowl than listen to Fox News. I’d see and hear more informative shit that way. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382/400 "2011-07-11T20:41:55Z")
> [@galveston](#): > > What she has going for her is the support of a huge grass-roots movement, sometimes insultingly called “tea baggers”, a homosexual term. There is nothing neccessarily gay about tea-bagging. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bachmann-announces-shes-running/585382.md?page=21)