# Back from the dead for a sequel

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [May 16, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425 "2025-05-16T00:39:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/41 "2025-05-17T13:23:48Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> There are too many comic book examples “no one, except maybe Uncle Ben, is ever permanently dead”.

Folks used to say “nobody except Uncle Ben and Bucky Barnes ever stays dead”.

And I think that there was a time when that statement also included “And Thomas and Martha Wayne”.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/42 "2025-05-17T13:30:59Z")

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_ **King Kong Lives** _ was (ostensibly) a sequel to the 1976 remake of _King Kong_, where apparently getting machine gunned and falling off the World Trade Center merely left Kong in a protracted coma.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/43 "2025-05-17T16:45:11Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Yeah, how did that happen? I never saw the second Kingsman movie, but I know Firth was back. He was shot in the head at close range with what? A Glock?

The American version of the Kingsmen - The Statesmen - saved Harry with advanced nanotechnology, however he did have cognitive issues and amnesia. They use that same nanotechnology later in the movie to save Whiskey (Pedro Pascal) who Harry suspects is a bad guy, and is proven right eventually.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/44 "2025-05-17T19:51:57Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Bela Lugosi’s Ygor was pretty clearly killed at the end of **Son of Frankenstein** , but he’s back in **Ghost of Frankenstein** without explanation.

That was his grandson, Eye-gor.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/45 "2025-05-17T20:08:23Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> There are too many comic book examples “no one, except maybe Uncle Ben, is ever permanently dead”.

I remember when they killed off Mr. Fantastic and Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four. For something like two years (I think) there was a battle on the letters page between the readers who weren’t buying it and the editors who insisted that Reed and Doom were really truly dead and were never coming back. They were trying to make their return some sort of big surprise when it was totally expected by anybody who had ever read a comic book.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/46 "2025-05-17T20:18:02Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> **Count Dracula** – staked (discreetly off-camera) in the 1931 film, he comes back

Not a sequel, but perhaps a wink at the many resurrections (if it can be called that when he’s already undead) of Dracula. In _Buffy_, when Dracula shows up there is of course a big battle, Buffy stakes him, and he turns to dust. The dust then reforms into Dracula again, another battle and Buffy re-stakes him. The dust starts to form again, and she tells him, “I’m standing right here,” so the dust flies out the window.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/47 "2025-05-17T20:18:08Z")

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Other than flashbacks and the afterlife, the only one I can think of was Sayid.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/48 "2025-05-17T20:29:16Z")

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Locke, sort of. And all of the other forms Jacob and the Man in Black took.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/49 "2025-05-17T20:39:03Z")

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Godzilla’s resurrection in _Godzilla Raids Again_ goes unexplained. It is ironically pointed out that they can’t use the oxygen destroyer used in the first film because the inventor was killed…just like Godzilla.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/50 "2025-05-17T22:40:00Z")

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James Woods is murdered in the Family Guy episode _And Then There Were Fewer_, and is resurrected for _Back to the Woods_.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/51 "2025-05-17T22:50:40Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> He died at the end of _Logan._

Wasn’t Logan set in some indefinite future? Ten, twenty years? it wasn’t our world at any rate.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/52 "2025-05-17T22:56:43Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Oh my God, they killed Kenny!

Before Kenny, there was Hans Moleman.

> Oh no. My brains.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/53 "2025-05-18T00:42:34Z")

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There are some Road Runner cartoons where the Coyote looks rather extra destroyed in the last skit. Unless there have been multiple coyotes (a possibility I pointed out in another thread) he’s probably had to be revived multiple times.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/54 "2025-05-18T05:30:21Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > He died at the end of _Logan._
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> Wasn’t Logan set in some indefinite future? Ten, twenty years? it wasn’t our world at any rate.

What you quoted was my reply when someone stated he was killed at the end of _The Wolverine._ He was alive at the end of that movie. He dies at the end of _Logan._ _Deadpool and Wolverine_ uses the end of _Logan_ as a jumping off point.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/55 "2025-05-18T05:45:55Z")

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A lot of the good examples have been mentioned.

[So I’ll just add Lt Shaxs from _Star Trek: Lower Decks_.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLQclSW8qf4)

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/56 "2025-05-18T17:35:16Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> > [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > Oh my God, they killed Kenny!
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> Before Kenny, there was Hans Moleman.
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> > Oh no. My brains.

Meh, speaking of MTV, Aeon Flux was already back from the dead for a sequel (and pulling off Kennys) long before that Simpsons episode.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/57 "2025-05-18T17:47:58Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> Before Kenny, there was Hans Moleman.

Speaking of Simpsons characters…Marvin Monroe.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/58 "2025-05-18T17:52:39Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> Meh, speaking of MTV, Aeon Flux was already back from the dead for a sequel (and pulling off Kennys) long before that Simpsons episode

Not to mention [Get A Life!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQlArfhOJ-I)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/59 "2025-05-18T22:57:58Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Godzilla’s resurrection in _Godzilla Raids Again_ goes unexplained. It is ironically pointed out that they can’t use the oxygen destroyer used in the first film because the inventor was killed…just like Godzilla.

I brought this up recently – it’s either upthread or in another concurrent thread.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/back-from-the-dead-for-a-sequel/1018425/60 "2025-05-19T14:27:26Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> In **The Increasingly Poor Decisions of a Todd Margaret** , they found a way to bring back all the characters for a third season after Todd detonated a North Korean nuke and killed off all life on Earth at the end of Season 2.

David Cross thought he’d made sure that he’d never have to be Todd Margaret again, but a fellow writer came up with a creative solution. Cross said “That’s brilliant! I’ve got to do it.”

It’d take too long to explain. Quicker if you just watch all 3 seasons… (they are SO fun).

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