# Background music ID help plz? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [September 14, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583 "2022-09-14T20:49:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/1 "2022-09-14T20:49:49Z")
Okay, this is driving me mental–there’s a bit of music that Kaiser Permanente uses in its hold music and I always just assumed it was one of those generic bits that IVR systems use to avoid paying royalties. Then I caught it being used on an episode of the Brit program _Escape To The Country_, which has me thinking it might actually be a recognizable piece of music that’s likely in the public domain. I tried Soundhound, Midomi, a few other music ID sites (including five or six of those YouTube videos of “instrumental tunes everyone knows but doesn’t know the name of” which was entertaining but unhelpful) with no luck and now this bit of piano noodling is a persistent earworm that I fear won’t go away unless I find out what the hell it’s called and/or who wrote it. Anyone? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/EzymqfEJkwc/hqdefault.jpg "Escape to the Country - Season 23 Episode 4 - Cornwall 🏠September 8, 2022") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzymqfEJkwc) This should bring it up at the correct timestamp but if it doesn’t, the tune is playing in the background starting at 9:10 of the video. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/2 "2022-09-14T20:57:46Z")
It doesn’t sound old enough to me to be a royalty-free piece of music. Sounds like something composed in the 90s onwards to me. So I’d guess some generic royalty-free music, myself, like you first guessed. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/3 "2022-09-14T21:13:31Z")
And that would make sense for the KP hold music, but to find exactly the same piece in a BBC production? Seems a bit coincidental that the same bit of generic music would be used by an American healthcare provider’s IVR system AND a BBC television show if it wasn’t a known bit of music. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/4 "2022-09-14T21:22:46Z")
I’ve put a link on reddit. Someone there might know. There used to be a site that listed all music used on bbc programs… now you just get [this](https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001bv7w) which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. (btw it’s neither of the 2 pieces listed) ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/5 "2022-09-14T21:36:03Z")
LOL @ “chocolate teapot,” nice! Where on reddit did you post it? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/6 "2022-09-14T21:53:10Z")
I tried Shazam, who thought it was: [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=A+story+of+mind+and+body++Happy+Moppy+Puppy](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=A+story+of+mind+and+body++Happy+Moppy+Puppy) But it’s not quite. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/7 "2022-09-14T22:06:00Z")
I tried Shazam too, using me humming the melody but it came up with nada. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/8 "2022-09-14T22:34:37Z")
_For Our Time_ by Terry Devine-King. I cheated and found an older thread on Reddit with the answer. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5qaVVGId84w/maxresdefault.jpg "Terry Devine-King - For Our Time") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qaVVGId84w) ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/9 "2022-09-14T22:39:55Z")
Ding ding ding! Awesome, thank you so much! This has been going round and round in my head for DAYS now, perhaps I can put it to rest. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/10 "2022-09-14T22:47:55Z")
Nice find. Looks like it’s a 2009 release, so I assume it’s not in the public domain and needs to be licensed? ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/11 "2022-09-14T23:00:05Z")
Quick google of the artist shows he does predominantly music for advertising and background music so yeah, needs licensing but this is what the guy does for a living–driving people nuts from the back of the room lol. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/12 "2022-09-14T23:08:59Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > It doesn’t sound old enough to me to be a royalty-free piece of music There is royalty free music created today. Age doesn’t factor. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/13 "2022-09-14T23:17:24Z")
I know, as I use it in my own work. I meant that to be a response to the OP saying that it may have likely been in the public domain. I should have phrased it as such. (The wording was a brain fart). ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/14 "2022-09-15T09:44:27Z")
Ha ! Someone answered it on reddit at about the same time ! I put it in /r/NameThatSong - usually pretty good for tune id ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/background-music-id-help-plz/971583/15 "2022-09-15T17:36:37Z")
Awesome, I’ll have to check that out next time, thanks.