# Backseat Hitmen (Off limits to living Mafia players)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 27, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683 "2007-03-27T14:43:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/321 "2007-05-08T10:43:42Z")

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[QUOTE=MonkeyMensch]  
Yeah, when my aim got so bad with \*\*Arizona Teach \*\* and \*\*glee \*\* I just gave up on the kill mafia tactic and went anti-town. And thanks. I’m always short on a kudo or two around the house. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Kudos, the executioner!

DYSWIDT?

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/322 "2007-05-08T16:51:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Yeah. Kudos, the executioner!

DYSWIDT?  
[/QUOTE]  
I think so, but I’ve always loved your phrase. _When Harry Met Sally_, neh?

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**Author:** ![hocow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hocow/32/4112_2.png) [@hocow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hocow)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/323 "2007-05-08T16:56:39Z")

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The town got another Mafioso, **Pygmy**!

We might still win!

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/324 "2007-05-08T17:07:08Z")

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Damn, it took me 30 minutes to read this damn thread!

The game’s pretty darn close, I don’t really know what to think so far. I think it’s pretty darn funny that most of my “slip-ups” weren’t really slip ups, though. Like when I said people were going to be gone, and they hadn’t said that in the thread.

Today’s screw up was pretty funny, though. I know there’s 2 mafia left now, so 3 when I was alive, and I thought we had to kill 3 town during the day. One less than what we actually had is 2, which is what I posted, even though 4 would be 1. Oh, well, live and learn.

I had a great time, although it sucks that the game ends for me the same day my finals do. Irony’s a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/325 "2007-05-08T17:09:50Z")

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Oh, and kudos for all those who fingered me, I have no idea how the heck I was able to work my way out of those, especially since I had at least one vote every day since **Auto** died.

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/326 "2007-05-08T17:47:24Z")

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Shoot, Pygmy I was willing to spare **Queuing** all the way to the end just because he suspected me and usually gave me vote from time to time. I figured no suspicion at all was the equivalent of a “shoot me quick” sign pasted on my back at night for the Mafia to see.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/327 "2007-05-08T17:49:11Z")

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And now I see that **brewha** has [post=8549426]come to the same conclusions as I[/post], and that a lot of folks didn’t like his plan. What does it matter if the town gets information, if they lose in the process? But the fact that it didn’t go through is proof that there were only two Mafia left, and further, the vote pattern should show more definite Mafia. In particular, the fact that at least one known Townie voted for someone other than **Pygmie Rugger** , and that the Mafia didn’t shift the vote onto **Lakai** , is very strong evidence that **Lakai** is Mafia, too (coupled also with his very strong defense of **PR** ). I’m not sure who the third is, but those playing have paid better attention to tells than I have, and even if they don’t know, one lucky guess isn’t outside the realm of possibility (especially since they can now afford a single mistake). Town may yet win.

Oh, and let me say that I have a lot of respect for **brewha** , apparently keeping his head despite everyone disagreeing with him.

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/328 "2007-05-08T17:59:50Z")

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Quote:  
Originally Posted by Pygmy Rugger  
If hocow and I are tied, are you going to kill us randomly, or her for not having posted. Assuming nothing changes?

still has to be random

Quote:  
Originally Posted by Pygmy Rugger  
Just out of curiosity, and please don’t answer until I’m dead or the game is over; do you know why I asked as of right now?  
Ok, now that you are dead. No, I had no idea. I think I have a guess now, but I am curious…why did you ask?

Why couldn’t I respond until you were dead?

Quote:  
Originally Posted by Pygmy Rugger  
Well, if hocow and I ended the day tied, and you were going to take her out for not posting, I could have kept my mouth shut. Luckily, Fretful Poputine came in and voted for her. If that hadn’t happened, I would have claimed that yes, I was mafia, and there was only 1 other, so the town should go after somebody else, and make the SK waste his kill on me. That would have also let the town find out who the SK was trying to kill, and also gave them a shot at getting the SK and keep them from lynching the last mafia before the SK died.

The reason I asked you then was because I thought it was a pretty neat plan, but I wanted to wait to bring it up until I was dead, because I didn’t want to put you in any kind of position of hearing my strategy, and being at all tempted to respond while I was living.

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/329 "2007-05-08T18:07:21Z")

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Well played, Pygmy!

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/330 "2007-05-08T18:24:43Z")

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Just dropping in to say…I TOLD YOU! On more than one occasion! Death to Pygmy!

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/331 "2007-05-08T18:29:13Z")

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[QUOTE=cowgirl]  
Well played, Pygmy!  
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Thanks! You did have me fingered pretty darn good, but I couldn’t figure out why you were going back to such old posts to prove it.  
Haha, this thread reminds me of “Sign my Yearbook” day in high school. 😃

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/332 "2007-05-08T18:30:35Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
Just dropping in to say…I TOLD YOU! On more than one occasion! Death to Pygmy!  
[/QUOTE]

😛 But for all the wrong reasons.

I’m still curious as to what **glee** refered to as my mistake, but that wasn’t refering to your theory about people being gone.

Damn only posting once per minute!

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/333 "2007-05-08T18:35:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Pygmy Rugger]  
You did have me fingered pretty darn good, but I couldn’t figure out why you were going back to such old posts to prove it.  
[/QUOTE]  
I kept trying to get caught up, but couldn’t. So many posts. So much personal life hecticness. I only read the recent posts but once, and y’all killed me before I could make my case any better.

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/334 "2007-05-08T18:39:01Z")

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[QUOTE=cowgirl]  
I kept trying to get caught up, but couldn’t. So many posts. So much personal life hecticness. I only read the recent posts but once, and y’all killed me before I could make my case any better.  
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Yeah, tell me about it!

But I sure am glad you didn’t, I would’ve died sooner! 😉

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/335 "2007-05-08T19:42:03Z")

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[QUOTE=MonkeyMensch]  
I think so, but I’ve always loved your phrase. _When Harry Met Sally_, neh?  
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Which phrase is that?

I was forced to put a gender hint in my location again 'cos so many people (despite the location having read “I’m a dude” for about a year) kept thinking I’m a girl. But “Kudos, the executioner” was a [Trek](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodos_the_Executioner) reference.

Welcome, **Pygmy Rugger**! Looks like some play left in the end-game, but my word what a fight the scum have made of it - well done all round!

_slides one along the bartop_

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/336 "2007-05-08T19:52:01Z")

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Thanks, I’ll take two!

I can’t wait to see what happens, it’s going to be a close one!

Thanks, **pima** … I mean, **Hockey**! 😉

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/337 "2007-05-08T19:53:12Z")

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Now that I’ve had some time to rest, I’d love to play this again!

I had a nagging suspicion about **Pygmy Rugger** for most of the game, but never enough to pin him down. If \*\*Queuing \*\* is town, I think he will be the next Mafia kill.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/338 "2007-05-08T20:00:29Z")

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I’ll slide another one along, but this is for **Pleonast**! My, that was a short night. Welcome to the clubroom, Mason, and well played. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/339 "2007-05-08T20:10:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey]  
I had a nagging suspicion about **Pygmy Rugger** for most of the game, but never enough to pin him down. If \*\*Queuing \*\* is town, I think he will be the next Mafia kill.  
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**Queuing**? The next Mafia kill is **Pleonast**.

ETA: The short night might indicate that there is no more power roles left in the game.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/340 "2007-05-08T20:23:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
**Queuing**? The next Mafia kill is **Pleonast**.

ETA: The short night might indicate that there is no more power roles left in the game.  
[/QUOTE]

They already got **Pleonast**. That’s why I posted. 😃

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