# Backseat Hitmen (Off limits to living Mafia players)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 27, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683 "2007-03-27T14:43:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/81 "2007-04-04T21:24:33Z")

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[QUOTE=CaerieD]  
At this point, I think the best way to sum it up is, “And then they all went insane.”

It’s like some sort of social experimental gone horribly, horribly wrong.  
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Hmm… should I feel very glad that I bailed out? 😃 (Or guilty that my antics might have helped FUBAR everything?)

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/82 "2007-04-04T23:23:53Z")

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[QUOTE=CaerieD]  
It’s like some sort of social experimental gone horribly, horribly wrong.  
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It’s like a car accident. I can’t stop refreshing the thread.

When will this night end???

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/83 "2007-04-04T23:37:43Z")

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Hopefully soon, **cowgirl**! By the time this night does end, though, I think special care packages will be needed for the incoming dead, so that they can nurse themselves back to sanity. I can’t believe this is only the _third_ night. Yeesh. Are any of them going to be able to use full sentences by the end of it, or is it just going to be a lot of monkeyish hoots and keyboard banging?

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/84 "2007-04-05T00:13:54Z")

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Night is over.

And… is **OAOW** dead or not? He was listed dead on the list of REMAINING players, which looks a little weird on the face of it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/85 "2007-04-05T00:15:07Z")

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Plus NAF fingered a Mason as Mafia if I’m reading the thread correctly–else why’d nesta be leaving the Masonic lodge? Hee.

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/86 "2007-04-05T00:15:52Z")

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Eesh. Welcome **Winston** and **nesta**. Here, this batch of nachos is fresh from the oven. You’ll need a napkin.

The plot thickens …

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/87 "2007-04-05T01:04:06Z")

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Well, that sucked. I guess karma is a bitch, and **Gadarene** gets to laugh at me now.

I want to know why I was killed. I think I know, but I want to really know. I wish I’d gone out in a lynching so I could face my accusers.

So did anyone following along have me pegged as mafia?

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/88 "2007-04-05T01:08:26Z")

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I don’t believe I ever thought you were Mafia for one second, **nesta**. You did _really_ well. It would appear that our SK is far smarter than the rest of us, though. Congrats on lasting as long as you did.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/89 "2007-04-05T01:19:21Z")

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I’ll share something funny with you. At least it’s funny to me now. Just before the night ended I asked **NAF1138** if we were going to like the results of the night votes. He didn’t answer me. I bet he was laughing too hard to reply.

**NAF1138** , you posted earlier in this thread that some of the mafia were being transparent. Be honest with me, you were talking about my posts, weren’t you. :smack:

It is a lot easier to pick the mafia out when you know who they are. **Gadarene** especially was easy to spot.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/90 "2007-04-05T01:44:24Z")

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I had your number, Nesta. A day late and a dollar short, though. Great job. My insane flame-out yesterday didn’t hold a candle to my false mason claim last time, but it was still fun.

I left an insanely paranoid epitaph to shake things up a little. I hope somebody reads it.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/91 "2007-04-05T01:54:55Z")

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I don’t believe you had me **Winston**. 😉 I did have you, though… I knew you were town the whole time.

A serious question, was your last post a joke? Either way, I think it was bad form to post it after you were dead.

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/92 "2007-04-05T02:08:24Z")

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I read it, **Winston**. Nicely put, though I don’t entirely agree with your logic. Then again, obviously you’ve been following the game much more closely than I’ve been. I haven’t had the best of luck prognosticating on who’s who from over here. I had a couple of good hunches in the beginning (I seem to be good at _occasionally_ spotting townies, at least), but when everything went crazy…well. I don’t know how _anyone_ could make sense of any of that.

So, at this point I’ve given up on trying out any theories. I’m just going to watch the madness and enjoy. 😃

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/93 "2007-04-05T03:41:21Z")

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I still think that **Fern Forrest** is highly suspect, not sure exactly why. We shall see, uh, shan’t we?

Was my parting post in bad form as well?

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/94 "2007-04-05T04:06:18Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
I still think that **Fern Forrest** is highly suspect, not sure exactly why. We shall see, uh, shan’t we?  
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No comment.

> [@](#):
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> Was my parting post in bad form as well?

My understanding of the rules is that dead players are allowed one post to say goodbye, but that it shouldn’t have any game or strategy related information in it. They are dead so they shouldn’t post anything to help the team out in any way.

I think **NAF1138** should clarify this in the game thread to remind people of the rule if this is correct.

In this regard, I think your parting post was a little questionable. It was day one, and you were killed before ever being able to post during the day, so I don’t think it was a big deal. **Winston’s** post, though, is a chalk full of names, strategy, links to posts, etc. Night and day difference.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/95 "2007-04-05T04:15:41Z")

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**nesta:**

> [@](#):
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> It is a lot easier to pick the mafia out when you know who they are. Gadarene especially was easy to spot.

😕

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/96 "2007-04-05T04:22:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
**nesta:**  
😕  
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Sorry, I was joking. Just playing on the fact that I was soooo sure you were mafia, even though I knew you weren’t.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/97 "2007-04-05T04:44:26Z")

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Yeah, hilarious. 🙂 I love how **Blaster Master** , who’s directly responsible for the deaths of **Winston** and myself, expresses absolutely no remorse, and even blames us for using bad logic. :dubious: By this point I’m assuming he _is_ the Vigilante, but he’s still an ass.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/98 "2007-04-05T04:59:41Z")

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Hey, I’d like to be given a little credit for your and **Winston’s** deaths too. 😉

**Blaster Master** is doing a good job of keeping the town confused… and I think whoever killed me is an ass. I had my strategy all mapped out for the next couple of days, but no.

At least I won’t get fired for trying to keep up with that thread.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/99 "2007-04-05T06:55:11Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
and I think whoever killed me is an ass.  
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Someone that followed the rules of the game, and effectively killed you is “an ass”?

Wow, can one make whine with sour grapes?

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/100 "2007-04-05T12:17:33Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
A serious question, was your last post a joke? Either way, I think it was bad form to post it after you were dead.  
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I established last time that I am the _ **Worst Mafia Player Ever** _™. This was my second (ever) game of Mafia/Werewolf, and I think it’s pretty obvious I haven’t improved since my first game. 🙂 My last post was a draft I was preparing to re-state my case and try to get the town focused. It was drafted Tuesday and yesterday, when my paranioa was at a fever pitch. 😉

I was under the impression that a parting post was an opportunity to do just what I did - post analysis and any final thoughts as a final contribution to the game, so players could learn as much as possible from your death. If that was out of line, I’m genuinely sorry.

**nesta** please check your PM.

/w

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