# Backseat Hitmen (Off limits to living Mafia players)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 27, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683 "2007-03-27T14:43:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/101 "2007-04-05T12:22:58Z")

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**NAF1138** , please pass along my sincere apologies to the players if I was out of line posting that parting summary. I was under the impression that that was accepted/conventional game play. thanks /w

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/102 "2007-04-05T13:40:45Z")

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Well, I certainly don’t think the person who killed me was an ass. If it was the VIG (as I’d suspected and as has been claimed by **Blaster Master** ), then I think it’s pretty damn funny that I got taken out by someone who’s supposed to be on the town’s side. If it was the Mafia, though, I’d congratulate them on spotting me so quickly and taking care of me before I could gather any further information. But it being the VIG is just so much funnier.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/103 "2007-04-05T14:30:39Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
Someone that followed the rules of the game, and effectively killed you is “an ass”?

Wow, can one make whine with sour grapes?  
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It seems my joking tone doesn’t work as text on a screen. I don’t really think the person who killed me is an ass. Hell, I don’t even know who they are. I don’t have any sour grapes. I had fun playing, and although I wish I were still doing so, it’s all part of the game.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/104 "2007-04-05T14:38:02Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
It seems my joking tone doesn’t work as text on a screen. I don’t really think the person who killed me is an ass. Hell, I don’t even know who they are. I don’t have any sour grapes. I had fun playing, and although I wish I were still doing so, it’s all part of the game.  
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The last game, **MadTheSwine** pursued me merculessly, and I had a hard time because I kept shifting between annoyance and amusement. So, I know exactly what you mean, I think. I’d describe it like this:

Game On: Bastard!  
Game Off: Great job!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/105 "2007-04-05T15:43:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
**NAF1138** , please pass along my sincere apologies to the players if I was out of line posting that parting summary. I was under the impression that that was accepted/conventional game play. thanks /w  
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Well it shouldn’t be done, but it happens all the time. Don’t worry about it too much.

Also, **nesta** you still have access to the mafia boards, so you can follow along at night if you like. Just don’t post opinions, strategy, or advice.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/106 "2007-04-05T15:57:01Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]

Also, **nesta** you still have access to the mafia boards, so you can follow along at night if you like. Just don’t post opinions, strategy, or advice.  
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Understood. I’m just a spectator now. At least I can follow the game on my own time and not be worried about missing something.

Thanks for running the game. It was a lot of fun even if I wasn’t as good at it as I hoped to be. There’s always next time I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/107 "2007-04-05T15:59:39Z")

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Yeah, this was fun. As somebody mentioned in the behemoth thread, I think it’d be a good idea to run multiple, smaller games next time. Maybe two or three of fifteen players each. I’d certainly volunteer to be in charge of one of them.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/108 "2007-04-05T16:16:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
Yeah, this was fun. As somebody mentioned in the behemoth thread, I think it’d be a good idea to run multiple, smaller games next time. Maybe two or three of fifteen players each. I’d certainly volunteer to be in charge of one of them.  
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Yeah, I am not sure if TPTB will let us do that. When I asked for permission to start this thread they said it was fine as long as only one was going at a time. It’s too high traffic for the hampsters to deal with more than one it seems. But it is worth a shot at asking. A smaller one next time would be a very good idea though. And maybe getting someone to help me keep track of the vote count, since I seem to always be missing someone!

Counting is harder than it looks.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/109 "2007-04-05T19:26:09Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]

**NAF1138** , you posted earlier in this thread that some of the mafia were being transparent. Be honest with me, you were talking about my posts, weren’t you. :smack:

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Not at all. Besides, I was clearly wrong.

BTW, since you wanted to know how you got picked: I actually asked the person who submitted your name for the night kill why they picked you, mostly because I was so surpised that it was your name. (I don’t usually) You gave yourself away to them by calling a night kill a lynching in one of your posts, something they figured only a mafia person would do. Turns out they were right. It was a small slip, but it was enough.

On the whole very well played, I don’t think anyone else saw it comming.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/110 "2007-04-05T19:56:30Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
You gave yourself away to them by calling a night kill a lynching in one of your posts, something they figured only a mafia person would do.  
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Thank you for sharing that. You’ve saved me many brain cycles trying to figure it out. I’ll have to go back through my posts to find where I slipped up. I’m glad it was a small thing that got me, at least it’s something I can try to avoid if/when I play this game again.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/111 "2007-04-05T20:06:26Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
When I asked for permission to start this thread they said it was fine as long as only one was going at a time. It’s too high traffic for the hampsters to deal with more than one it seems. But it is worth a shot at asking. A smaller one next time would be a very good idea though.  
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Hmm… I’m not sure that this one big game is lower-traffic or easier on the hamsters (sic) than two smaller ones would be. 😃 But there _is_ space on the first page-ful of MPSIMS threads to worry about, which is another scarce resource on the board.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/112 "2007-04-09T07:05:04Z")

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Looks like Smitty is going to run afowl of the no lurking rule. I am putting out a call for people who might want to take over his role. Let me know if you are interested in jumping in. Former players are welcome to submit as well.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/113 "2007-04-09T19:31:11Z")

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I don’t know if anyone out there is still actually following this game, but if you aren’t and you have a few hours to kill I highly recommend getting back in right now. It’s like the \*Lord of the Flies \* in there.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/114 "2007-04-09T19:33:47Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
I don’t know if anyone out there is still actually following this game, but if you aren’t and you have a few hours to kill I highly recommend getting back in right now. It’s like the \*Lord of the Flies \* in there.  
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Damd. I’ll say…

🙂

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/115 "2007-04-09T19:44:29Z")

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This is one crazy game. With all these power-roles available it seems every early lynch is met with a role claim. I’m almost glad I was night killed so early so that I don’t have to wade through that mess.

BTW **NAF1138** , I’d volunteer to sub in for **smitty** but I don’t think it would look good if I did and failed to out all the Mafia, or fair if I did, so I don’t think you’d let me. 😉

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/116 "2007-04-09T19:47:53Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
This is one crazy game. With all these power-roles available it seems every early lynch is met with a role claim. I’m almost glad I was night killed so early so that I don’t have to wade through that mess.

BTW **NAF1138** , I’d volunteer to sub in for **smitty** but I don’t think it would look good if I did and failed to out all the Mafia, or fair if I did, so I don’t think you’d let me. 😉  
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That’s true. You know to much to sub back in, sorry.

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/117 "2007-04-09T23:17:37Z")

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It finally looks like something more interesting is happening. That thread got too big and confusing even for those playing it before, but the last few pages are pretty good. Though I haven’t been following closely enough to know who’s likely to be right (though, barring an elaborate conspiracy, pimaspinner is almost certainly a cop regardless of FCOD’s position, as someone pointed out over there).  
Minor nitpick - unless you’re giving them another hour of reprieve, NAF1138, you probably meant Pacific Daylight Time (PDT not ‘PST’). I only noticed it in a post you made a day ago, and I don’t think anyone’s confused at this point when the day will end.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/118 "2007-04-09T23:21:19Z")

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[QUOTE=panamajack]  
It finally looks like something more interesting is happening. That thread got too big and confusing even for those playing it before, but the last few pages are pretty good. Though I haven’t been following closely enough to know who’s likely to be right (though, barring an elaborate conspiracy, pimaspinner is almost certainly a cop regardless of FCOD’s position, as someone pointed out over there).  
Minor nitpick - unless you’re giving them another hour of reprieve, NAF1138, you probably meant Pacific Daylight Time (PDT not ‘PST’). I only noticed it in a post you made a day ago, and I don’t think anyone’s confused at this point when the day will end.  
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Ah yes. Well then…uh. I do make mistakes. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/119 "2007-04-09T23:55:20Z")

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Hi folks! It looks like I’ll be joining the ranks here in…oh, about 6 minutes. I think I’m technically breaking the rules by posting here prematurely, but what are they gonna do, kick me out of the game?

Mostly, I’m just killing time until my execution, after which I will post reams of “inside information” for your reading enjoyment.

Or not.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/120 "2007-04-10T00:12:07Z")

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That was a funny lynching, **Suburban**

Meanwhile, I do find it interesting that there’s so much discussion over something that, well, I might or might not have done while I was in the game, and my reasons why if I did it.

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