# Backseat Hitmen (Off limits to living Mafia players)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 27, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683 "2007-03-27T14:43:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kivvik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@kivvik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kivvik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/141 "2007-04-13T03:24:58Z")

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Ah, and the day ends. I am so very sad that my analysis of Autolycus’s posts were so very wrong. I thought I had done at least one thing right. Le sigh.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/142 "2007-04-13T03:28:41Z")

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Just when you thought it was safe to walk the streets at night…

The Town had better be right about **Fern Forest** or it’s gonna be a looooong day tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/143 "2007-04-13T04:22:19Z")

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What’s up everyone? I’m honored that people thought I was the Godfather, haha. I kinda wish I was actually, because I would have been playing brilliantly instead of lamely \>\<

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/144 "2007-04-13T06:07:27Z")

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You may not have played the game well, but I, for one, found your posts to be very amusing. That said, I think the town is screwed.

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![kivvik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@kivvik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kivvik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/145 "2007-04-13T06:08:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
What’s up everyone? I’m honored that people thought I was the Godfather, haha. I kinda wish I was actually, because I would have been playing brilliantly instead of lamely \>\<  
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You miserable bastage! I thought you were special! 😛 I, I, read your clues so wrongly. On the bright side, my constant defense of you didn’t help you much. At all.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/146 "2007-04-13T06:10:06Z")

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**’lycus** , I liked your posts… I hereby bestow upon you the role of Heavily Aksented Immigrant Wif Lotsa Cousins

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/147 "2007-04-13T06:52:16Z")

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I cant be sad, because I’m watching Robin Williams on Youtube 🙂

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/148 "2007-04-13T10:33:11Z")

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In a fit of pure Mafia-related humor, allow me to recommend [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8461111#post8461111](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8461111#post8461111) to any of you who happen to watch Lost. ^^

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/149 "2007-04-13T10:54:53Z")

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That day sure went quick. The vote for Autolycus is completely understandable (I’m sure you mafia folk were loving the Autolycus act). I hope they’re right about Fern Forest, but the evidence seems kind of shaky to me. Pima has a 50/50 chance of getting it wrong, and the supporting evidence is that FF talked about what the serial killer should do a lot? Why would the SK do that? That day was way too rushed. They should have hashed out the FF bit a little more.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/150 "2007-04-13T11:29:16Z")

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Question for the mafia:

Did you suspect sturmhauke was a mason at any point? I was wondering if Pleonast and/or I were a little too overzealous in defending him during his bandwagon on day 1. I don’t think we were, but I was thinking I should have maybe reigned in one of my sturm defense posts a little bit.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/151 "2007-04-13T13:54:35Z")

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[QUOTE=zuma]  
Question for the mafia:

Did you suspect sturmhauke was a mason at any point? I was wondering if Pleonast and/or I were a little too overzealous in defending him during his bandwagon on day 1. I don’t think we were, but I was thinking I should have maybe reigned in one of my sturm defense posts a little bit.  
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I can’t speak for the rest of the Mafia, but I never had any specific suspisions of **sturmhauke**. I wasn’t really looking for Masons back on Day 1, and by the time you guys came out after the “festivities” on Day 2, I was loath to go back and reread the thread to look for clues.

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/152 "2007-04-13T17:01:46Z")

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Nah, I had no idea he was a Mason. The only roles I figured out were pima and JSexton. I knew that pimaspinner was a cop from day one, and JSexton was the doc since day two.

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/153 "2007-04-13T17:25:43Z")

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[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom]  
Nah, I had no idea he was a Mason. The only roles I figured out were pima and JSexton. I knew that pimaspinner was a cop from day one, and JSexton was the doc since day two.

–FCOD  
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Hmm, interesting. Day two was around the time that I bailed and J subbed in for me.

Care to share any tidbits about what led you to those conclusions?? 😃

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/154 "2007-04-13T17:32:15Z")

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[QUOTE=chrisk]  
Hmm, interesting. Day two was around the time that I bailed and J subbed in for me.

Care to share any tidbits about what led you to those conclusions?? 😃  
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Well, I assumed that you were a power role because of your untimely departure. At first I thought you were a Mason, but when we tried to kill JSexton the third night and we were blocked I knew he was protecting himself. I didn’t have any real evidence, just a hunch.

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/155 "2007-04-13T18:08:03Z")

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I have a question for the mafia. Did my mob-speak schtick actually save myself from any night kills? I figured that drawing negative attention to myself and keeping heat off the mob would save myself a few nights. Little did I know that you can still win even if dead, doh!

My plan was working really well in any case, until Pimaspimmer threw out that theory that I had no way of really defending against. I could have BSed a role, but I doubt that would have saved me either.

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/156 "2007-04-13T18:19:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
I have a question for the mafia. Did my mob-speak schtick actually save myself from any night kills? I figured that drawing negative attention to myself and keeping heat off the mob would save myself a few nights. Little did I know that you can still win even if dead, doh!

My plan was working really well in any case, until Pimaspimmer threw out that theory that I had no way of really defending against. I could have BSed a role, but I doubt that would have saved me either.  
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Eh, maybe a little. We considered killing you, but figured that the town would lynch you pretty soon so it’d be a waste of your kill. I think we would have killed you on the third night if we didn’t have better targets (Masons).

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/157 "2007-04-13T18:28:47Z")

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[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom]  
Eh, maybe a little. We considered killing you, but figured that the town would lynch you pretty soon so it’d be a waste of your kill. I think we would have killed you on the third night if we didn’t have better targets (Masons).

–FCOD  
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Mwahahaha, partial vindication is mine! 🙂 ☹

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/158 "2007-04-13T18:51:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
I have a question for the mafia. Did my mob-speak schtick actually save myself from any night kills? I figured that drawing negative attention to myself and keeping heat off the mob would save myself a few nights. Little did I know that you can still win even if dead, doh!

My plan was working really well in any case, until Pimaspimmer threw out that theory that I had no way of really defending against. I could have BSed a role, but I doubt that would have saved me either.  
[/QUOTE]

Take it from me: a fake role claim _would not_ have saved you. 😃

And I, for one, was diggin’ your rap. I guess some of those folks checked their sense of humor at the door.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/159 "2007-04-13T21:34:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
And I, for one, was diggin’ your rap. I guess some of those folks checked their sense of humor at the door.  
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At first, I found it fairly annoying. But after not too long a while, it started to grow on me. In the end, I was sorry to see you go (though I was laughing all the way to nightfall at how certain the town was that they’d caught the Godfather).

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backseat-hitmen-off-limits-to-living-mafia-players/397683/160 "2007-04-13T23:54:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
Mwahahaha, partial vindication is mine! 🙂 ☹  
[/QUOTE]

Lurker here.

Honestly, until the “padrino” theory started floating I had you pegged as the Serial Killer.

Think about it: the mafia knows you’re not mafia, the rest takes you for a clown and it prolongs your life, at least for a while…

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