# Backwards baseball caps - sly cultural statements **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 13, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726 "2016-05-13T23:06:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/61 "2016-05-19T13:14:35Z")
I like to chuckle condescendingly about how non-functional a backwards baseball cap is while I am putting on my tie. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/62 "2016-05-19T13:18:12Z")
No for notbing, but what’s functional about a tie? Don’t your shirts have buttons? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/63 "2016-05-19T14:10:11Z")
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/64 "2016-05-19T15:20:45Z")
I only wear practical clothing in the correct fashion. I quit one job because they wanted me to wear pants when a burlap sack\* worked fine. It was nothing but a made-up fashion statement that required both my legs to be covered in impractical cloth tubes. \*I used to buy the burlap sacks but now make them better and cheaper at home. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/65 "2016-05-19T15:27:56Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > To each their own, but I always get a chuckle from anyone over the age of four who wears their ballcap backwards. Exponentially if the brim is flat, stickered, and less than 180 degrees from front. > > If you’re worried about it coming off in a breeze, your hat doesn’t fit you properly. > > [Cute](http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/baby-baseball-cap-1299784.jpg). > [Comedy gold](http://www.strictlyfitteds.com/sites/default/files/styles/featured_550_x_420/public/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/360flip_layout5.jpg)! [Yep.](http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/507324668-kevin-smith-is-photographed-for-the-wrap-on-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXkQ%2FtXNKtyfuxP7yf349g2lZp3yXyKPXN%2BKZV1TbHO2CcTLQvbTR5TbNZQZR6bVxDHDwYbMBVo1T6zLPrE16EIQ%3D) ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/66 "2016-05-19T22:43:06Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > If you owned the restaurant, you would most likely not say anything, unless the hat was creating an actual problem for other customers. And, well, chefs wear hats in the kitchen for a reason. Depends on the restaurant. Some restaurants (fewer these days) require jackets for men. I am sure they would also ask men to remove hats. Kitchen toques are a completely different issue. > [@Grrr](#): > > I was in a restaurant once, the manager told me I needed to take off my hat. When I pointed out “That girl over there has a hat on” he replied: “Girls are allowed. Men aren’t” And with that, my party and I left before our food came. Screw that noise. Etiquette rules for hats have always been different for men and women. I would be curious to know what kind of restaurant that was. If it were Denny’s I would be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/67 "2016-05-19T22:46:03Z")
Og Bless Kevin Spacey for his sly cultural statement, wearing his flat hat backwards. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/68 "2016-05-20T00:56:46Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Etiquette rules for hats have always been different for men and women. I would be curious to know what kind of restaurant that was. If it were Denny’s I would be surprised. It was a sports bar and grill type place. And that sort of etiquette, I find to be grossly outdated. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/69 "2016-05-20T01:18:26Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > It was a sports bar and grill type place. And that sort of etiquette, I find to be grossly outdated. Sports bars have their own style. I’m very surprised they would ask you to take a hat off. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/70 "2016-05-20T14:23:35Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > I was in a restaurant once, the manager told me I needed to take off my hat. When I pointed out “That girl over there has a hat on” he replied: “Girls are allowed. Men aren’t” And with that, my party and I left before our food came. Screw that noise. See, win-win. You get to go off in righteous anger, and have a story to tell years later, and they don’t have to deal with an obnoxious customer who stiffed them on the bill. In fact, they’re probably telling the story about this guy who just wouldn’t eat unless he had his hat on. Must of thought he was a cowboy. har de har har. Still good for a laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/71 "2016-05-20T14:37:03Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > See, win-win. > > You get to go off in righteous anger, and have a story to tell years later, and they don’t have to deal with an obnoxious customer who stiffed them on the bill. In fact, they’re probably telling the story about this guy who just wouldn’t eat unless he had his hat on. Must of thought he was a cowboy. har de har har. Still good for a laugh. Look, I’m no MRA guy by a long shot. But their policy was sexist. Furthermore, I’m not going to sit there and eat my diner in humiliation, as people take a gander at my “hat hair” (this was back before I went baldy). I had been working all day with my hat on. Taking my hat off would not have been a pretty site. And besides, it’s a fucking sports bar. Not exactly an icon of fine dining. If that makes me obnoxious, so be it. ---
**Author:** ![jebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@jebert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jebert)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/72 "2017-05-18T18:56:51Z")
IMHO, wearing a backwards cap is just plain … well, let’s just say … unflattering. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/backwards-baseball-caps-sly-cultural-statements/754726/73 "2017-05-18T19:02:36Z")
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