# Bad city's in America. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 29, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631 "2019-10-29T01:20:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631/81 "2019-11-01T02:09:55Z")
Provo UT isn’t far from Salt Lake City. Al Capone reportedly wanted to expand operations to Provo but gave up because the place was too crooked. Sure, that was then, this is now. I’ll nominate Stockton CA for sleazy attention these days. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631/82 "2019-11-03T05:59:45Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > If you read the article I linked, Salt Lake City actually had a solution that was quite effective. However, it cost money and they harpooned it and homelessness is now on an upward trajectory. > > "\*Once lauded as a leader among U.S. cities struggling to relieve homelessness, the number of people sleeping rough in Utah’s capital has spiked in the past two years, as funding for its groundbreaking housing program dried up. > > Homelessness is on the rise in the United States for the second year in a row according to a December report by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. > > The increase has been particularly noticeable in Utah, which had reduced chronic homelessness by 91 percent over the decade up to 2015, according to the state’s annual homelessness report. > > Experts attributed the drop to a “Housing First” policy, adopted by the state in 2005, which focused on getting people into housing, regardless of mental illness or substance abuse problems that could be treated after accommodation was secured. \*" Didn’t “60 Minutes” do a show about this? IIRC, the clients also had to not just look for, but actually GET and KEEP a job unless they were totally disabled, and stay away from alcohol and illegal drugs. This story included at least one person who preferred living on the streets to following their rules. An organization in my town is in the early stages of planning a “tiny house community” for the chronically homeless, also with some very tight rules. I’ll believe it when I see it. :dubious: In my area, when the weather gets very cold, or very hot for that matter, some of the shelters that make their clients leave during the day convert to 24 hours, although one in particular are upfront that they cannot guarantee that they will be able to feed them, probably because they do not have a commercial kitchen and must rely on donated food that doesn’t require one for large-volume preparation. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631/83 "2019-11-03T13:43:10Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Well, I’ll bite. This little town near me (not naming it) is a scary little food desert. Anywhere near Tull? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631/84 "2019-11-03T15:23:27Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > And you have the FLDS to thank for that. This is what happens to all their, if you will, extra boys. ☹ I realize that “extra” LDS boys (including my own grandfather) were deliberately made homeless decades ago, because of polygamy. Is this still part of the culture? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631/85 "2019-11-04T05:46:35Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I realize that “extra” LDS boys (including my own grandfather) were deliberately made homeless decades ago, because of polygamy. Is this still part of the culture? That’s exactly the reason why. Apparently they tend to hitchhike to the SLC region, or Phoenix in cold weather, and usually work in construction. I have also heard that some families have taken these boys into their homes, whether through the foster care system or some other means, and the boys said they didn’t know that families really lived the way these people did. They had adequate food and clothing (not always the case with FLDS households) and were shocked that both boys and girls could go to school for as long as they wanted, and that in the non-FLDS world, people choose their spouses and can have as many or as few children as they wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631/86 "2019-11-04T14:37:27Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Anywhere near Tull? There will be water if God wills it. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-citys-in-america/842631/87 "2019-11-04T16:39:52Z")
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