# Bad Day for Republicans **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 8, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436 "2013-03-08T22:22:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/41 "2013-03-10T09:10:27Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > SenorBeef, I didn’t make any such claim. It’s just silly politics at play in this country with regards to the unemployment. As I mentioned, I am no friend of the republicans nor their obstructionism. I don’t think that anything good that happened should be credited to republicans. But I also don’t think that anything good that happened should be credited to the democrats, either. What? “But now that things are better… the republicans don’t get any credit for all their obstructionism? Silly.” You’re saying that because things are improving, Republicans should be credited for their obstructionism, and that if anyone in this thread works under any other assumption, it’s “silly”. Yet you haven’t provided any evidence or any argument at all that the republican obstructionism was actually a contributing factor to any positive results. And it goes against common sense, so the burden is on you to make your case, not just smugly dismiss everyone in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/42 "2013-03-10T09:14:37Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > What? > > “But now that things are better… the republicans don’t get any credit for all their obstructionism? Silly.” > > You’re saying that because things are improving, Republicans should be credited for their obstructionism, and that if anyone in this thread works under any other assumption, it’s “silly”. Yet you haven’t provided any evidence or any argument at all that the republican obstructionism was actually a contributing factor to any positive results. And it goes against common sense, so the burden is on you to make your case, not just smugly dismiss everyone in this thread. Well allow me to make what I was trying to say more clear. It’s silly to credit or blame republicans or democrats for rising or falling unemployment. That’s all I meant. Not that republican obstructionism is to credit for a falling unemployment number. I think it’s silly to play these partisan political games. That’s all. My sincerest apologies for not making myself more clear before. ---
**Author:** ![Enemy\_Country](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@Enemy\_Country](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enemy_Country)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/43 "2013-03-10T12:35:49Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Huh? Republican here, why would any of this be bad for me and why would I want to spin it? Because you must destroy the IDEA of Obama. Didnt you get your orders? ---
**Author:** ![Enemy\_Country](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@Enemy\_Country](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enemy_Country)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/44 "2013-03-10T12:37:51Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Who is going to say what, specifically? limbaugh and hannity will say code race talk about Obama and his supporters. Local radio in the South will call for revolution and succession. ---
**Author:** ![Enemy\_Country](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@Enemy\_Country](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enemy_Country)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/45 "2013-03-10T13:09:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It’s really not a huge step between: > > “I hope the economy does not do well between now and the election season of summer 2016, because that will make our (R) chances of winning the office of president that much easier.” > > And > > "How can we spin the news to make it look like the economy is actually doing poorly, when all the indicators are positive? > > To finally: > > “How can we deliberately screw up the economy and then pin the blame on the sitting president in order to improve our chances of regaining the Oval Office?” > > I think the R’s are hovering right now between option #2 and #3. The tea party has been waging war on this Country since January 2009. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/46 "2013-03-10T13:21:52Z")
> [@Enemy\_Country](#): > > The tea party has been waging war on this Country since January 2009. Your inability to capitalize correctly pains me but does not surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/47 "2013-03-10T13:39:08Z")
[QUOTE=John Boehner] Any job creation is positive news, but the fact is unemployment in America is still way above the levels the Obama White House projected when the trillion-dollar stimulus spending bill was enacted, and the federal government’s ongoing spending binge has resulted in a debt that exceeds the size of our entire economy. [/QUOTE] Paraphrased: “Good news is good news, but Obama is still a bad president because he still hasn’t fixed everything we fucked up.” ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/48 "2013-03-11T19:06:45Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > This is hilarious. If things would have gone worse and worse, the democrats would be shouting about how it was republican obstructionism that was ruining the country. But now that things are better… the republicans don’t get any credit for all their obstructionism? Silly. > > I’m no fan of republicans but the logic in this thread hurts. It’s just like the people who praise God when good things happen and then say he works in mysterious ways when bad things happen. Reminds me of my hardcore Tea-Partying niece, who said last year that God was teaching her good lessons via her unemployment, then voted for Romney because she just knew he would create jobs, then posted that everyone should take care and be vigilant because you-know-who got re-elected, then got a job and thanked her team of prayer warriors for it. I don’t follow this at all. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/49 "2013-03-12T00:59:48Z")
Can you get prayer warrior action figures at Wal-Mart? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/50 "2013-03-12T01:08:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Can you get prayer warrior action figures at Wal-Mart? Your prayers have been [answered](http://www.revelationgeneration.co.za/shop/spirit-warriors/). ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/51 "2013-03-13T02:29:58Z")
This gave me a flashback to '04 when Republicans were calling the Dems unpatriotic because they were hoping for America to fail so Kerry could win. These things go in cycles. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/52 "2013-03-13T16:32:51Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > This gave me a flashback to '04 when Republicans were calling the Dems unpatriotic because they were hoping for America to fail so Kerry could win. These things go in cycles. Certainly you’re right, but this time the cycle has gone deeper into crazy territory. I certainly recall the Republicans accusing the Dems of being unpatriotic in '04, but I don’t recall the Dems actively screwing the economy by refusing to pay for a budget they had already approved of, leading to the first downgrade of the credit rating of the U.S. federal government. I mean, in 2011, the Republicans actively and deliberately screwed up the credit rating of the US. They didn’t just “hope” for America’s economy to fail. They took steps to move it along the path to failure. So yes, these things go in cycles. The Republicans have taken the cycles to new extremes. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/53 "2013-03-13T20:00:11Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Politically oppose the president - of course. > > But don’t sabotage the economy. I suspect the February reports are going to be the best for a long time. The sequester will start to drag things down. > > We need fiscal stimulus, but that just is not going to happen with the teahadists in control of the house. Yup. And the Republicans will say with one breath that Obama not giving in and thus causing the sequester is costing jobs, while with the next breath will say that government spending never created any jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/54 "2013-03-13T20:43:20Z")
More [bad news for Republicans](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/us-february-retail-sales-post-largest-gain-in-five-months/article9708738/) > [@](#): > > Retail sales increased 1.1 per cent, the largest rise since September, after a revised 0.2 per cent gain in January. That was well above economists’ forecasts for a 0.5 per cent advance. Oh no, it gets WORSE: > [@](#): > > Spending is being supported by the stock market rally, rising home prices and sustained job gains which are starting to push wages higher. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436/55 "2013-03-13T21:00:02Z")
Stimulus works, “austerity” is a buzzword for constipated Calvinists. We got a metric buttload of shit to fix: bridges, roads, buildings (esp. schools!). We’re gonna have to fix them sooner or later. We got millions of people we could put to work. We will never be able to borrow the money as cheaply as we can now, and the price of the materials will go up as the economy improves. Poverty does not build character, it destroys character, it makes people sicker, sadder, and sucks the joy right out of their lives. Bad enough when there is nothing can be done, but when something can be done, its obscene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-day-for-republicans/652436.md?page=2)