# Bad first albums / great second albums? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 15, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-first-albums-great-second-albums/290238 "2005-02-15T19:29:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-first-albums-great-second-albums/290238/21 "2005-02-16T23:31:13Z")
David Bowie had a bunch of records of various sucess (plus the one big hit “Major Tom”) before “Ziggy Stardust” when he really started to take off (although I consider “Hunky Dory” one of his best albums.) I think Ministry’s first album was actually pretty sucessful but they’d probably _like_ it to be forgotton. ---
**Author:** ![Carm6773](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Carm6773](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carm6773)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-first-albums-great-second-albums/290238/22 "2005-02-17T00:55:58Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Billy Joel’s **Cold Spring Harbor** did have a couple of good songs, but it was just fair overall, and the record company sped the entire thing up so it would have more of a beat. It was a flop. However, his second, **Piano Man** was great from start to finish and spawned several classic songs. This is true. Billy was in 2 groups before he released _CSH_. The first group was called **The Hassles**. The other group was METAL group called **Attila**. [Here’s a link to the cover art.](http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=4011121182) Billy’s on the right. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-first-albums-great-second-albums/290238/23 "2005-02-17T00:58:16Z")
Moving this from IMHO to Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-first-albums-great-second-albums/290238/24 "2005-02-17T12:58:57Z")
Shouldn’t Springsteen be on this list? Greetings from Asbury Park didn’t make a dent. Born to Run had him hailed as the 3,752 “new Dylan.” ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-first-albums-great-second-albums/290238/25 "2005-02-17T13:50:54Z")
> [@Carm6773](#): > > This is true. Billy was in 2 groups before he released _CSH_. The first group was called **The Hassles**. The other group was METAL group called **Attila**. [Here’s a link to the cover art.](http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=4011121182) Billy’s on the right. Interesting. I remember that album. Never listened to it, but I worked in a record store and I remember the cover. Just looked it up in AMG: > [@](#): > > a reason why they’re the only heavy rock organ-and-drums duo in the history of rock & roll — it’s an atrocious combination. They’re forgetting Lee Michaels, who was successful with that combination. > [@](#): > > Shouldn’t Springsteen be on this list? Greetings from Asbury Park didn’t make a dent. Born to Run had him hailed as the 3,752 “new Dylan.” “Greetings” got good critical press, and sold adequately for a first album by an unknown. It also gave him the “New Dylan” label. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-first-albums-great-second-albums/290238.md?page=1)