# Bad guys you KNOW will show up in Smallville **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 24, 2001, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990 "2001-11-24T04:25:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/1 "2001-11-24T04:25:30Z")
So far we’ve had, what, a half dozen Smallville “mutants.” With the exception of the girl who could change her appearance, they were all pretty standard fare, comparable w/ various Buffy monsters or X-Files eps. Not bad, but nothing overwhelmingly creative either. More baddies we’re going to see in Smallville, sooner or later: A telekinetic, someone who can become invisible, someone who can control the weather, someone who can control the earth (I’m assuming the writers are going to hit all the elements), someone who can astral project, a witch, a ghost (preferably Whitney’s), a “ghost in the machine” baddie, various mutated animals, a monster made of at least 50% kryptonite, and Lex Luthor, brandishing those swords he keeps behind his desk. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/2 "2001-11-24T04:37:05Z")
Ooh, I wanna play. A vampire. A fire guy (what? We had an ice dude) A seductress who kills boys by having sex with them Cheerleader demon Possessed car An animal with kryptonite- I can see dog or cat, but fish is just too “South Park” A baby who just gets born to a woman who had kryptonite in her system for awhile A possessed teacher Kryptonite that opens up a vortex to an alternate universe Is it just me, or are all these villains madly sexy? Bug boy, the old man (as a kid again), and of course, Lex Luthor…ahhh…\ And Clarke’s not too bad himself. Oh yeah, and Whitney. This show is just eye candy, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/3 "2001-11-24T04:45:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zoggie \* > \*\*A seductress who kills boys by having sex with them > Cheerleader demon > \*\* Y’know, I can think of a very happy convergence of the two. Then there’s the even happier combination of “sex demon who kills boys by having sex with them after possessing the body of a girl” and Lana Lang… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/4 "2001-11-24T04:52:35Z")
I have a feeling even Clark wouldn’t mind being seduced by Lana under those circumstances. 😛 Of course, she’s no longer a cheerleader…Sigh. Hey, I want to see more episodes where Clark has to excercise maddening self control to keep himself from looking at the girls changing in the locker room, stuff like that. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/5 "2001-11-24T06:25:08Z")
Wasn’t the football coach the “fire guy”? ---
**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/6 "2001-11-24T07:30:03Z")
Ghost of Whitney, did I miss an episode? Yes, it is all eye candy, and Lana is the Savoy Truffle. I sure hope she learns to act and they give her some good lines. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/7 "2001-11-24T16:46:19Z")
OK, I foresee the following coming to Smallville: A robot that uses kryptonite as a power source. Mad scientists by the dozens. Someone who can fly, forcing Clark to learn how to. An enemy who gets Clark’s powers through some kind of energy transfer. A demon/ghost/what-have-you that possesses Lana Possibly villians that normally don’t appear until Clark becomes Superman, examples of these are: Mxyzptlk Another Kryptonian Granted, if they do introduce these types of characters, they are basically saying to Hell with continuity. On a couple side notes, where the HELL are Clark’s glasses? Hmmm? And, am I the only one who thinks that Clark’s friend Chloe (I think that’s her name) is cuter than Lana? ---
**Author:** ![EandCDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@EandCDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EandCDad)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/8 "2001-11-24T17:20:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\*Wasn’t the football coach the “fire guy”? \*\* yea, they did the fire guy. It makes you wonder why everyone gets a different power. Why doesn’t it effect two people even remotely the same? Clark’s friend Chloe is cute, but extremely annoying, and not nearly as cute as Lana, who is also annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Fool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Green\_Fool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Fool)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/9 "2001-11-24T19:29:27Z")
What I really want to see are established (in the comics) villains and heroes show up in Smallville. They’ve certainly made no efforts to stay with the Comic continuity (why should they really) so what I want to see is: A young Wally West (or Barry Allen) come to Smallville as part of the Key City track team competing with the Small Ville Crows. So we can have a Superman/Flash team up. Some sort of mystery in Smallville where a young Bruce Wayne, who just happens to be traveling through town , some how gets invloved. He is the world’s greatest Detective after all, or he will be someday. Or make Bruce a young millionare friend/rival of Luthors. I’d like to see Bizarro some how be worked in.But not Bizarro World. But he could easily be worked in to a Alternate reality or Kryptonite Portal storyline. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/10 "2001-11-24T19:59:47Z")
I want to see (and won’t, mind you): Clark sitting at a park bench as a red-haired guy walks up and says “Hi, Superboy” and wanders off. Then, when Clark’s Superboy, a blonde girl says “Hi Clark”. IE: I want the Legion. I wanna see them do the Mordru Story where the Legion hides out back in Smallville. I want Master Myxtzptlk(sp) The Kryptonite Kid Red Kryptonite The story where Master Myxtzptlk(sp) helps Superboy defeat the Kryptonite Kid by turning the Kryptonite Kid into RED kryptonite (which turned him good) because if the Kryptonite Kid killed Superboy, who would Master Myxtzptlk torment? Bruce (The Flying Fox) Wayne Krypto A time-lost Supergirl (when she was still Superman’s secret weapon) (and a game of tag amongst the asteroids) Lana Lang, Insect Queen A journey back to Krypton featuring Jor-El in a green jumpsuit with a red sunburst on his chest…lots of art-deco tech. Mon-El A retelling of the original Bizarro story Beppo the Super-Monkey The Phantom Zone (featuring a big red spotlight projector) The story where Jor-El’s robot tutor shows up on Earth. It’s the same story where Clark gets laid for the first time (seriously!) Abin Sur Like I said: I ain’t gonna get any of these, but wouldn’t it be cool? Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/11 "2001-11-24T23:58:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DPWhite \* > \*\*Ghost of Whitney, did I miss an episode? > \*\* Naw, unfortunately not. I just don’t like the kid. Besides being eye candy for **Zoggie** , I just see no reason for his continued presence on the show. Sure as the romantic rival for Clark, but even in this capacity he seems a little too…one-dimensional as a character, just the walking talking incarnation/place-holder varsity jock. Now if they actually made him a nice guy, as hinted at in the first 15 or so minutes of the first episode, it may be another story. And, **Fenris** , I’m sure you’ll get Beppo the Super Monkey when it’s shark jumping time. 😉 > [@](#): > > Hey, I want to see more episodes where Clark has to excercise maddening self control to keep himself from looking at the girls changing in the locker room, stuff like that. Hell, I want more episodes where Clark _does_ look in the girl’s locker room. You know, to, um, find the evil Smallville High girl’s locker room ghost? ---
**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/12 "2001-11-25T00:21:04Z")
Good. Killing Whitney would be a mistake. The guy can act (although he is too old for the part) and his character is almost normal. Nice one minute and a big jerk the next. Reminds me of teenagers I know. Adults too. I have to disagree about Chole being prettier than the Lana character. (Sorry I don’t know the actor’s names yet.) Lana is almost etherally pretty making the myth of being hopelessly unattainable more real for Clark. It’s also clear that Lana has a thing for Clark too. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/13 "2001-11-25T01:41:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Green Fool \* > **Some sort of mystery in Smallville where a young Bruce Wayne, who just happens to be traveling through town , some how gets invloved. He is the world’s greatest Detective after all, or he will be someday. Or make Bruce a young millionare friend/rival of Luthors.** The producers have said they’d like to have Bruce Wayne in an episode. ---
**Author:** ![EandCDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@EandCDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EandCDad)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/14 "2001-11-25T04:18:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KKBattousai \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by DPWhite \* > > \*\*Ghost of Whitney, did I miss an episode? > > \*\* > > Naw, unfortunately not. I just don’t like the kid. Besides being eye candy for **Zoggie** , I just see no reason for his continued presence on the show. Sure as the romantic rival for Clark, but even in this capacity he seems a little too…one-dimensional as a character, just the walking talking incarnation/place-holder varsity jock. > > Now if they actually made him a nice guy, as hinted at in the first 15 or so minutes of the first episode, it may be another story. > Hell, I want more episodes where Clark _does_ look in the girl’s locker room. You know, to, um, find the evil Smallville High girl’s locker room ghost? \*\* I agree about Whitney. I thought in the first episode it would be different and he would be a nice guy and it would make the whole thing more complicated. Oh well, he does sort of jump back and forth between jerk and ok guy. I also agree that more locker room scenes are necessary, for, you know, plot development and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/15 "2001-11-25T23:09:58Z")
What? No one’s mentioned **Braniac**? It’d be a shame if he doesn’t put in an appearance at some point. And hey, maybe a young Lois Lane could come through town and stir up some trouble with Lana. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/16 "2001-11-26T06:16:55Z")
Ah, how could I forget this one: there’s going to be a psychic bad guy that can somehow access other people’s memories. He’ll find out Clark’s secret. He’ll also be a vegetable by the end of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_The\_Bold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@Dale\_The\_Bold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_The_Bold)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/17 "2001-11-26T08:06:59Z")
How about **Yo-yo Diet Girl**. She’s fat, she’s thin, she’s fat again. They should also have one with no “freak of the week.” What I’d really like to see is Clark visiting Metropolis and, while standing outside the Daily Planet (with Chloe, who is thrilled) a beautiful girl walks in front of the camera saying “It’s my dream to work here some day!” A friend then says, “Come on, Lois, let’s get going.” ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Stewart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dave\_Stewart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Stewart)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/18 "2001-11-26T08:20:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jab1 \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Green Fool \* > > **Some sort of mystery in Smallville where a young Bruce Wayne, who just happens to be traveling through town , some how gets invloved. He is the world’s greatest Detective after all, or he will be someday. Or make Bruce a young millionare friend/rival of Luthors.** > > The producers have said they’d like to have Bruce Wayne in an episode. \*\* Unfortunately, they’ve since canned the idea. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/19 "2001-11-26T09:20:16Z")
Y’know, Spoke, when I first saw the thread title, Brainiac was the first one to come to mind. There’s been plenty of time travel in the DC universe ('specially around Superman), so it would make sense to alter the continuity. Unfortunately, they’d have to pull a _Sphere_ and make everyone forget about it afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990/20 "2001-11-26T11:22:52Z")
Or they could have Clark fly around the Earth, counter-rotation, really, really fast. 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-guys-you-know-will-show-up-in-smallville/94990.md?page=2)