# bad hair day(toner my butt!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 15, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342 "2004-07-15T23:39:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/1 "2004-07-15T23:39:55Z")
Okay. I last got my brown hair highlighted in February. I cannot get it done as often as I need because I cannot afford to. I must ask my father for the money. So this guy who runs his own place nearby charges way less than everyone else. Mostly older women come in. A highlighting is 50, an all over color is 40. Everywhere else it is almost twice as much. It had been 5 months and my roots were long. I figure I will look good for the summer, or whats left of it. Well, my father gave me the 40, though he thought that was WAY overpriced(hes very cheap). I had decided to get the all over color because it was less. Bad idea. He did it, dried it to show me and it was unacceptable. Way too light in some places and where it had been brown (not highlit) was orangey. He says he’ll put on a toner. I have had a toner before. It mainly takes out brassiness. Not this one. My hair is now brown. Not my original shade, but a bit lighter and slightly reddisher. Yes, I had to pay him. Now I am not blonde at all. Even if I had more money to get it re-highlighted, I must wait as it needs time to grow and get a little stronger. I know this isn’t much of a rant, but I ams eriously depressed over it. Major mistake. Lesson leanred: the more you pay, the better the product (service) is. Anyone else is welcome to commiserrate and tell me their experience was worse. ---
**Author:** ![Cockatiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cockatiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cockatiel)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/2 "2004-07-15T23:47:36Z")
Wow, sorry **vanilla** , I feel your pain ☹ . I once got my hair highlighted with blonde streaks, didn’t like them, and went to get them dyed over. Somehow, my hair turned brassy orange too! Ugh, that was a nice week. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/3 "2004-07-16T03:35:31Z")
But wait! Theres more! He noticed my ends are a bit scraggly as I love long hair and though mine was below my bottom of my bra at the bottom, he suggested he cut 2 inches off. To make it look healthier. I hate short hair. Its above my bra now. I only like it way longer, almost to my waist. It will take about 8 months now to get long enough. And I also must wait 4 more weeks for a highlighting, which he is SO nice to take 15$ off the price, since I told him twice “I paid for blonde and didn’t get it.” So I won’t really feel like I look good til February. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/4 "2004-07-16T13:25:00Z")
Why don’t you do it yourself? A box of haircolour from the store is less than $10. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/5 "2004-07-16T13:32:07Z")
Whatever you do, don’t go back to him. Find someone else. I wouldn’t attempt a home highlighting job, but maybe you can save up a bit to pay for somebody who knows what they’re doing. I wish I could send you to the guy my mom and I go to; he charged me $80 for highlights, but did a great job. ---
**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/6 "2004-07-16T13:33:15Z")
DON’T DO IT YOURSELF!!! Going darker with drugstore haircolor on HEALTHY hair is one thing, but trying to correct color and go lighter with it on chemically treated hair is something else entirely. The chemicals can fry your hair and make it ten times worse than you ever thought possible! I’ve seen DIY colored hair that breaks off and comes out in clumps like a bad wig. My advice to you is to live with it for awhile, save your money, and have it professionally corrected at a good salon. ---
**Author:** ![meek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@meek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meek)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/7 "2004-07-16T13:59:39Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > …So I won’t really feel like I look good til February. :mad: If you were _bald_, you’d still look good hun. 😉 It’s only hair. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/8 "2004-07-16T14:30:48Z")
That is really good advice. Sometimes you get what you pay for. No, it would be horrible to do it at home for the reasons above. My whole head was treated with bleach. The longer I wait, the more my roots will grow and make my hair stronger. I beg to differ. I would NOT look good bald. Most importantly, I would not feel good bald. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Anduin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Anduin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/9 "2004-07-16T15:48:02Z")
Okay, I had something similiar happen to me. I had permed my hair, waited three weeks, and then dyed it. All of a sudden, my hair started breaking off leaving me with these little tufts. (I still don’t know why this happened, ordinarily, I can do anything to my hair, and it just bounces back and begs for more!) Alright, I actually have a point here. Vanilla, go to the store, and buy the Garnier Fructis deep condition masque, or the Loreal Vive Color deep conditioner. (They both come in tubs, instead of bottles.) Use either one, instead of regular conditioner, and they will really strengthen your hair. I used the Garnier Fructis one religiously, and my hair is completely back to normal. I think they only cost about $3, and you can use them every day. Hope this helps you feel a little better! ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/10 "2004-07-17T01:06:38Z")
More good advice! Will do. But I won’t use them very day as I don’t wash my hair every day. I espeically won’t now that its even drier. thanks. I will look good by February for sure. Will take photos. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/11 "2004-07-17T01:39:14Z")
Back in the olden days (the '80s), my best bud fried her hair with way too many bleachings. She was advised that the only thing she could do to save her tresses was treat them with [Queen Helene Cholesterol](http://www.queenhelene.com/haircarechol2.html). You have to gop it on your hair and then apply heat, like with a hot towel. It worked. Plus it’s cheap. It should be available at any decent beauty supply place. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/12 "2004-07-17T04:09:22Z")
what gets me is that I had to pay him. I specifically asked for blonde. Though he attempted that, it most definitely didn’t work, as he admitted. Making it brown was worse. I would not pay for brown hair. It looked better with brown roots and blonde hair, at least the blonde was nice to look at. I don’t want to be brunette. I haven’t been for 14 years. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/13 "2004-07-17T05:46:54Z")
What about beauty schoo…er cosmetology training centers? (what are they called now?) Students are trained and supervised, especially during the heavy duty chemical processy stuff, and the prices are much better than most salons. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/14 "2004-07-17T10:52:10Z")
Check out Fantastic Sam’s. They touch up my hair for me every few months for $40.00 and they keep a record of what shade they use so I get the same color each time. Keep in mind that my hair is also long, well past my shoulders. I’ve been seeing the one near me for a few years now, and they’ve done a good job each time. Oh, and please, check your e-mail. CJ ---
**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/15 "2004-07-17T12:01:58Z")
Laughing so hard! > [@vanilla](#): > > Well, my father gave me the 40, though he thought that was WAY overpriced(hes very cheap). The person who’s paying for it is “cheap”? HA! It’s funny how the person who knows it’s overpriced is the one who has the money to pay for it? > [@](#): > > I cannot get it done as often as I **need** because I cannot afford to. [bolding mine] > [@dictionary.com](#): > > need (n.) > A condition or situation in which something is required or wanted: crops in need of water; a need for affection. > Something required or wanted; a requisite … > Necessity; obligation: There is no need for you to go. > A condition of poverty or misfortune: The family is in dire need. need? hardly. > [@](#): > > Now I am not blonde at all. Not in hair colour, no. :dubious: > [@](#): > > Anyone else is welcome to commiserrate(sic) and tell me their experience was worse. > [@dictionary.com](#): > > com·mis·er·ate > v. com·mis·er·at·ed, com·mis·er·at·ing, com·mis·er·ates > v. tr. > To feel or express sorrow or pity for; sympathize with. I don’t sympathise for you. But I might pity you for being disillusioned about value and your “needs” and for being and dependent upon your parentals. Welcome or not, this is the pit. ---
**Author:** ![Daisy\_Mae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@Daisy\_Mae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daisy_Mae)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/16 "2004-07-17T16:00:07Z")
> [@Go You Big Red Fire Engine](#): > > Laughing so hard! > > The person who’s paying for it is “cheap”? HA! It’s funny how the person who knows it’s overpriced is the one who has the money to pay for it? > > [bolding mine] > > need? hardly. > > Not in hair colour, no. :dubious: > I don’t sympathise for you. But I might pity you for being disillusioned about value and your “needs” and for being and dependent upon your parentals. > Welcome or not, this is the pit. \>whew\< thank you. I thought I was the only person who thought it was odd that she **needed** her hair done. When she said her dad paid for it, I thought she must be a teenager but I checked her profile pic and she is most certainly not. I would think that if you’re so broke that you can’t even pay $40 for your OWN hairdo, there are probably many other things that you **need** to worry about rather than getting your hair streaked for the remains of the summer. ---
**Author:** ![Morelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Morelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morelin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/17 "2004-07-17T16:47:53Z")
> [@Daisy Mae](#): > > \>whew\< thank you. I thought I was the only person who thought it was odd that she **needed** her hair done. When she said her dad paid for it, I thought she must be a teenager but I checked her profile pic and she is most certainly not. > > I would think that if you’re so broke that you can’t even pay $40 for your OWN hairdo, there are probably many other things that you **need** to worry about rather than getting your hair streaked for the remains of the summer. That and she needs to be blonde to feel good about herself. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/18 "2004-07-17T17:12:26Z")
I don’t know why **vanilla** included the part about her father giving her the money. Around here, posting info like that is like wearing a “kick me” sign. I was hoping people would be nice and gloss over it, though. **vanilla** , I’m sure your hair doesn’t look half as bad as you think it is. Maybe you just need some time to get used to it? There are way too many blondes out there in society. I don’t know why white women seem to fool around with their hair color so much anyway. All of the white women I know have sploched hair. But their natural hair color is so purty! (Let me stop before I get flamed…) Personally, I think brown hair is beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/19 "2004-07-17T17:18:18Z")
Listen carefully. IT IS JUST HAIR. Repeat it with me. IT IS JUST HAIR. Chill. Take a deep breath. Let it out. Take another one. Let it out. IT IS JUST HAIR. No one is judging you because you have brown hair, even if you think it’s ugly. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342/20 "2004-07-17T18:27:58Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > what gets me is that I had to pay him. > I specifically asked for blonde. > Though he attempted that, it most definitely didn’t work, as he admitted. > Making it brown was worse. > I would not pay for brown hair. > It looked better with brown roots and blonde hair, at least the blonde was nice to look at. > I don’t want to be brunette. I haven’t been for 14 years. > ☹ Sorry if this has already been answered, but why did you have to pay him when he screwed it all up?? I have a lot of friends who go blonde, I myself have attempted to go brunette (didn’t work it made me look like death :D). My daughter and my best friend’s mom are both hair stylists, beauticians (umm, whatever the PC term is), and if they screw up the customer’s hair, from what I understand, they don’t have to pay. Ive even seen similar “episodes” on some of those “People’s court” shows. Usually, if it’s a screw up, the customer doesn’t have to pay. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hair-day-toner-my-butt/255342.md?page=2)