# Bad movies that you genuinely enjoy

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**Created:** [January 17, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106 "2014-01-17T22:05:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/61 "2014-01-18T18:07:47Z")

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I cannot believe _The Trial of Billy Jack_ rates as high as 50% on RT, but it is so irretrievably dreadful that I am forced to overrule the OP and declare it a Bad Movie. You have to see this for yourself; no words would suffice.

Another movie that must be included on a technicality is _Infra-Man_ , which is Unrated on the Rotten Tomatoes website but contains the most brilliant line ever in the history of movies featuring the attack of disconnected body parts\* -

> [@](#):
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> The situation is so bad, it is the worst it has ever been!

And I have to respectfully disagree with **pulykamell** - _Freddy Got Fingered_ is not a “bad” movie. It’s a disgusting movie, certainly, but it has a unified comic vision, and it skillfully creates that vision.

Regards,  
Shodan

\*Again, don’t ask, it cannot be explained. You have to see the movie.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/62 "2014-01-18T18:07:58Z")

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_ **Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure** _. Another deliciously moronic movie! Siskel and Ebert failed utterly to see the humor in it; that’s when I stopped valuing their opinions.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/63 "2014-01-18T18:11:01Z")

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i was certain I would hate My Super Ex-Girlfriend, but I got some genuine laughs from it.

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**Author:** ![Roundabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dec6dc/32.png) [@Roundabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roundabout)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/64 "2014-01-18T18:15:31Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I really don’t understand the hate for this movie. I mean yeah, the accent is annoying and the movie is certainly not great by any stretch, but it’s not horrifically awful (as it was described to me before I watched it). I didn’t even realize it was M. Night Shyamalan, and that’s a _good_ thing.

Yeah, me neither. At most, you could call it a generic summer blockbuster. Definitely better than Shyamalan’s other recent flicks.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/65 "2014-01-18T18:19:48Z")

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> [@Roundabout](#):
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> Yeah, me neither. At most, you could call it a generic summer blockbuster. Definitely better than Shyamalan’s other recent flicks.

And I enjoyed more than another movie that came out about the same time and received a much better reception: _Oblivion_. That movie was boring as shit.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/66 "2014-01-18T18:29:59Z")

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I love _Xanadu_.  
One of my favorite movies is a cheesy '70s horror film called _The Manitou_. I was surprised it actually got as high as 43% on RT. (Actually, I was surprised it was there at all!)

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/67 "2014-01-18T18:34:26Z")

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Sylvester Stallone’s _Cobra._ 13% on RT, but I can watch it any time it’s on. I’ve even watched it in its entirety on a Spanish-language network, and I don’t know a word of Spanish. It didn’t matter because I can quote the entire screenplay from memory.

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**Author:** ![Roundabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dec6dc/32.png) [@Roundabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roundabout)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/68 "2014-01-18T18:34:59Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> And I enjoyed more than another movie that came out about the same time and received a much better reception: _Oblivion_. That movie was boring as shit.

I find Tom Cruise boring in general.

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**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/69 "2014-01-18T18:35:12Z")

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My “Dirty Dozen”+ 2:

[ol]  
[li] **Armageddon** - Completely unbelievable, but I can watch it over and over again. From firing a shotgun on a working oil rig to everybody seeming to forget that a Texas-sized asteroid would still break up into millions of fragments large enough to end life on Earth, it is a undeniable craptacular masterpiece.[/li][li] **Down Twisted** (1987) - Cary Lowell at her hottest. Charles Rocket acts crazy as hell ( before you found out he realy was that crazy) and a ridiculous story that gets funnier each time I watch it.[/li][li] **The Black Hole** (1979) - If you can forget that the titular Black Hole is actually a swirling blue mass and that Maximillian Schell is overacting his butt off, this one is a hoot.Kudos to Robert Forster for keeping a straight face throughout this one. and Yvette Mimieux proved that her looks were the only reason that she got work in Hollywood.[/li][li] **The Caveman’s Valentine** - Since I was apparently one of teh 10-20k who paid to see this one (It GROSSED around $820K during its brief run) I have to say that I was surprised that no one else liked it. It had many slow parts; but it was “serviceable” entertainment.[/li][li] **Decision At Sundown** (1959) - Probably the worst of Ranown Westerns starring Randolph Scott. But I can’t help enjoying it for the fact that at least everybody in tried to make it funny. Most did not succeed.[/li][li] **You Only Live Twice** - A terrible Sean Connery Bond film which makes little if any sense. Just imagining him made up as being Japanese is so ludicrous that it almost ruins the film. The rocket gun equipped ninjas are also hard to swallow. But somehow… it works.[/li][li]\*\*Zardoz \*\*- “Wizard of Oz.” ZAR\_DOZ. Sean Connery in a loin cloth. Flying stone heads. This one has something for everybody. I can watch and laugh all day at this one.[/li][li]\*\*Exorcist III \*\*- Pat Ewing as an angel. Giant pair of autopsy shears almost cutting off somebody’s head. George C. Scott at his overacting best. This film is a classic.[/li][li] **Food of the Gods** (1975) - Marjoe Gortner ranting and raving. Animals eating everything in sight.Environmental message that makes you want to destroy wildlife. This one has it all.[/li][li]\*\*Die Hard \*\*(1988) - If ou can overlook the obvious fact that A) An electromagnet can only work if it has electricity B) The terrorist plan was incredibly stupid C) That McClane could have walked down the emergency stairs to the basement and escaped or let SWAT teams in and ended things sooner. D) That Argyle was apparently deaf sitting in that limousine this is the prototype for 1990’s action classics.[/li][li] **The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen** - Had they left out Tom Sawyer, it would have been better; other than that, while Alan Moore might hate, I LOVE IT.[/li][li] **The Wrecking Crew** (1969) - The only watchable Matt Helm film that Dean Martin ever made.Awful, but watchable.[/li][li] **The Razor’s Edge** - Bill Murray takes himself waaayyyy too seriously in this one. But it…works. At least for me.[/li][li] **Once Upon A Time In Mexico** - Johnny Depp overacgts his butt off and Antonio Banderas has all of teh emotional warmth of a broken toaster. But I have seen this so many times I can quote the lines.[/li][/ol]

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/70 "2014-01-18T20:25:49Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Nobody’s mentioned “Sharknado” yet? Yes, it did get some theatrical screenings!
> 
> Don’t forget “Surf Nazis Must Die”, “Soapdish”, and “I Was A Zombie For The FBI”.

These are all in the “so bad it’s good” territory, which was specifically ruled out in the OP.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/71 "2014-01-18T20:28:05Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> **Roadhouse** , with Patrick Swayze, will generally stop me in my tracks if I run across it channel surfing. 40% on RT. God the female lead was awful…as was, of course, the rest of the film…🙂

They why did you uninronically like it? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/72 "2014-01-18T20:28:29Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> [li]\*\*Die Hard \*\*(1988) - If ou can overlook the obvious fact that A) An electromagnet can only work if it has electricity B) The terrorist plan was incredibly stupid C) That McClane could have walked down the emergency stairs to the basement and escaped or let SWAT teams in and ended things sooner. D) That Argyle was apparently deaf sitting in that limousine this is the prototype for 1990’s action classics.[/li]

Honestly, I just rewatched it last month and none of those things bothered me or, to be honest, occurred to me. I don’t even know what the electromagnetic thing is you’re talking about offhand, so I guess my suspension of disbelief was complete (ETA: Oh, must be the safe thing you’re talking about. Not something I even considered.) At any rate, it doesn’t qualify by the OP’s Rotten Tomato standards, as it’s a very high 92% fresh rating (and 94% from audiences).

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/73 "2014-01-18T20:36:01Z")

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[Things to do in Denver When You’re Dead](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=amf) (33%) is a guilty pleasure of mine. A former gangster trying to go straight, crippled crime boss, psychotic career criminal, and a 24 year old Gabrielle Anwar - what’s not to love?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/74 "2014-01-18T20:40:57Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> My “Dirty Dozen”+ 2:
> 
> [ol]  
> [li] **Armageddon** - Completely unbelievable, but I can watch it over and over again. From firing a shotgun on a working oil rig to everybody seeming to forget that a Texas-sized asteroid would still break up into millions of fragments large enough to end life on Earth, it is a undeniable craptacular masterpiece.[/li][li] **Down Twisted** (1987) - Cary Lowell at her hottest. Charles Rocket acts crazy as hell ( before you found out he realy was that crazy) and a ridiculous story that gets funnier each time I watch it.[/li][li] **The Black Hole** (1979) - If you can forget that the titular Black Hole is actually a swirling blue mass and that Maximillian Schell is overacting his butt off, this one is a hoot.Kudos to Robert Forster for keeping a straight face throughout this one. and Yvette Mimieux proved that her looks were the only reason that she got work in Hollywood.[/li][li] **The Caveman’s Valentine** - Since I was apparently one of teh 10-20k who paid to see this one (It GROSSED around $820K during its brief run) I have to say that I was surprised that no one else liked it. It had many slow parts; but it was “serviceable” entertainment.[/li][li] **Decision At Sundown** (1959) - Probably the worst of Ranown Westerns starring Randolph Scott. But I can’t help enjoying it for the fact that at least everybody in tried to make it funny. Most did not succeed.[/li][li] **You Only Live Twice** - A terrible Sean Connery Bond film which makes little if any sense. Just imagining him made up as being Japanese is so ludicrous that it almost ruins the film. The rocket gun equipped ninjas are also hard to swallow. But somehow… it works.[/li][li]\*\*Zardoz \*\*- “Wizard of Oz.” ZAR\_DOZ. Sean Connery in a loin cloth. Flying stone heads. This one has something for everybody. I can watch and laugh all day at this one.[/li][li]\*\*Exorcist III \*\*- Pat Ewing as an angel. Giant pair of autopsy shears almost cutting off somebody’s head. George C. Scott at his overacting best. This film is a classic.[/li][li] **Food of the Gods** (1975) - Marjoe Gortner ranting and raving. Animals eating everything in sight.Environmental message that makes you want to destroy wildlife. This one has it all.[/li][li]\*\*Die Hard \*\*(1988) - If ou can overlook the obvious fact that A) An electromagnet can only work if it has electricity B) The terrorist plan was incredibly stupid C) That McClane could have walked down the emergency stairs to the basement and escaped or let SWAT teams in and ended things sooner. D) That Argyle was apparently deaf sitting in that limousine this is the prototype for 1990’s action classics.[/li][li] **The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen** - Had they left out Tom Sawyer, it would have been better; other than that, while Alan Moore might hate, I LOVE IT.[/li][li] **The Wrecking Crew** (1969) - The only watchable Matt Helm film that Dean Martin ever made.Awful, but watchable.[/li][li] **The Razor’s Edge** - Bill Murray takes himself waaayyyy too seriously in this one. But it…works. At least for me.[/li][li] **Once Upon A Time In Mexico** - Johnny Depp overacgts his butt off and Antonio Banderas has all of teh emotional warmth of a broken toaster. But I have seen this so many times I can quote the lines.[/li][/ol]

If you are laughing at these films and they are not meant to be comedies, as you indicate is the case with several of them, I don’t see how they meet the OP’s test of being enjoyed on their own terms.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/75 "2014-01-18T21:08:51Z")

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I’ve a few nominees:  
The Further Adventures of Tennessee Buck. Rated 29% on Rotten Tomatoes, it’s a perfectly fine jungle adventure B movie, a spiritual successor to all those Tarzan movies way back when. The plot rolls right along, David Keith does a fine job as a boozing, washed-up big game hunter with a hot native girlfriend, and the scenery in Sri Lanka where it was filmed is gorgeous, and very authentically jungle-licious. Plus the female lead is Kathy Shower, She of the Enormous Nipples That Stick Right Out There, and they DO get screen time, most especially in the scene where the female natives take Kathy into a hut, strip her, and give her a group oil massage that’s, well … very nicely done – lots of torchlight gleaming on smooth, writhing skin. But even without the sexy, it would still be a perfectly fine jungle adventure movie.

Erotic Boundaries – unrated on Rotten Tomatoes, unsurprisingly so, since it’s a Skinamax erotic thriller. It’s the story of a husband and wife where the husband gets involved with his job and stops paying attention to his beautiful young wife. Soon enough he’s cheating on her with his assistant who adores him. Meanwhile, the wife, played by Kathy Shower, has a chance meetiing with an old college flame, played by Lisa Comshaw. Seems the two of them had a lesbian dominance/submission thing going on back in college. This is the part that makes the movie worth enjoying uninronically – the way Comshaw works to get Shower back into that erotic submission from their college relationship, and the way the neglected Shower reluctant succumbs. If the movie’s plot had progressed naturally from this relationship, and if the husband’s office fling were a bit less dull and by the numbers, it would have been an unabashedly topnotch movie. As it is, it’s a serviceably erotic thriller … much more erotic than thrilling, but because Shower and Comshaw portray two women who have a relationship rather than two women who perform a variety of sex acts, it’s good on its own terms, until the bad-faith ending.

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I enjoyed **Bubble Boy**.

**Casa de mi Padre** was an interesting bit of surreal film making and I think Will Ferrell is funny, despite how people make it seem like a crime to believe so.

I find most sci-fi movies fun.

**Blacula** is much under rated, for William Marshall’s interpretation of a black Dracula if for nothing else.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/77 "2014-01-18T21:57:43Z")

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I saw [RIPD](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ripd/) without knowing anything about it, and thought it was funny, stoopid (in the best sense of the word) and short (in a world … where even fart joke comedies have to go for two hours plus). And I laughed more at it than I did at the movies it ripped off.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/78 "2014-01-19T01:23:35Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> _ **Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure** _. Another deliciously moronic movie! Siskel and Ebert failed utterly to see the humor in it; that’s when I stopped valuing their opinions.

That’s at a 92 on rotten tomatoes, so it is not in any way a bad movie, but a pretty well loved one.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/79 "2014-01-19T01:29:43Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> _Van Helsing_ (22% positive on Rotten Tomatoes).
> 
> It was so over the top, I loved it. I especially like their Frankenstein.

Agreed. Also, Kate Beckinsale was hawt, even with the silly accent.

I was amused to learn that, several years later, the actor who played Frankenstein’s Monster (Shuler Hensley) played essentially the same role in the Broadway version of “Young Frankenstein”. 😃

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-movies-that-you-genuinely-enjoy/679106/80 "2014-01-19T01:33:14Z")

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> [@Lydia\_Phalfav](#):
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> Crappy movies like Van Helsing & League of Extraordinary Gentlemen give our old gaming group (D&D among others) great character ideas.

Out of all of the D&D characters I’ve played in the past 30+ years, one of my favorites is still the paladin I based on the movie’s version of Van Helsing.

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