# Bad news from nightclub in Chicagp **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 17, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616 "2003-02-17T13:44:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/1 "2003-02-17T13:44:48Z")
[Yikes](http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/club14.html)! > [@](#): > > Hundreds of people stormed the exits of a crowded South Side nightclub after a disturbance broke out early Monday, killing at least 21 people and leaving several others injured, police said. > > \ > > There were more than 1,500 people in the two-story Epitome Night Club on the city’s Near South Side when someone sprayed pepper spray or mace into the air some time after 2 a.m., Fire Commander Will Knight said. ---
**Author:** ![monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monster)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/2 "2003-02-17T13:50:48Z")
I just saw it on the news here. How awful. ---
**Author:** ![lothos2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@lothos2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lothos2002)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/3 "2003-02-17T15:10:39Z")
I read about this in the paper this morning, it is awful. My thoughts and prayers go to the families of the decesaed and to those who were injured. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/4 "2003-02-17T15:21:31Z")
> [@](#): > > “It wasn’t nothin’ but two girls fighting,” Blackwell said. “Why’d they have to spray Mace?” Oh, my goodness. ☹ What sheer idiocy, and what a horrible way to die. It reminds me of [this incident in Volendam](http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/01/02/dutch.fire.02/index.html) two years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Longmos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@Longmos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Longmos)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/5 "2003-02-17T15:27:20Z")
Pregnant woman? 3:00 am on a Monday? Sounds like a bunch of upstanding citizens to me:rolleyes: Bet they were celebrating Presidents’ Day, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/6 "2003-02-17T15:29:24Z")
I turned on the news while getting ready to go to work this morning (at a major hospital here), and hear the part about how many dead and wounded, and a list of the hospitals they were brought to, my workplace included. (I don’t work in the ER.) Perhaps surprisingly, I didn’t automatically think “terrorist incident”; instead I wondered if there was some huge highway pileup, like the kind that killed **Qadgop the Mercotan** ’s neighbors last year in Wisconsin. Here’s another [report](http://www.nbc5.com/news/1981489/detail.html) on it; witnesses interviewed for that story say that security there were the ones who sprayed the Mace. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/7 "2003-02-17T15:30:46Z")
What **Longmos** said. Lord knows pregnant women shouldn’t have a life. Imagine that. Being pregant in a place _where alcohol is served_. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/8 "2003-02-17T15:31:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Longmos \* > Pregnant woman? 3:00 am on a Monday? Sounds like a bunch of upstanding citizens to me:rolleyes: > > Bet they were celebrating Presidents’ Day, huh? You know, a heck of a lot of people **do** have the day off. How does going out dancing late mean that you’re automatically of poor moral character? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/9 "2003-02-17T15:33:42Z")
Security sprayed mace in a crowded disco! For fuck’s sake, how dumb can you _get_? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/10 "2003-02-17T15:39:06Z")
the Security sprayed mace? Sweet jesus, what a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/11 "2003-02-17T15:46:28Z")
According to reports so far, at least. :mad: If it’s true, that’s yet another thing going on the list of fines and lawsuits that’ll be forthcoming, I’m sure. Locking up other exits was a bad idea just by itself. ---
**Author:** ![Spooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Spooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spooky)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/12 "2003-02-17T16:09:40Z")
Godspeed to all of the victims…I don’t think that I could possibly imagine a more horrible death than being trampled underfoot. Sometimes I weep for humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Zanshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e274bd/32.png) [@Zanshin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zanshin)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/13 "2003-02-17T16:14:28Z")
I can’t imagine how horrible being there must have been – my heart and thoughts go out to the injured and the families of the deceased. ---
**Author:** ![Longmos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@Longmos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Longmos)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/14 "2003-02-17T16:15:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \* > \*\*What **Longmos** said. > > Lord knows pregnant women shouldn’t have a life. Imagine that. Being pregant in a place _where alcohol is served_. \*\* I’m sure the child will congratulate her someday for putting herself first and having a good time. That is, if it ever manages to be born. ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/15 "2003-02-17T16:17:24Z")
I wonder how much mace was sprayed. Was the entire nightclub (I assume it’s a large club if it had 1500 people) affected? Are the effects of mace so unbearable that one must stampede to an exit? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/16 "2003-02-17T16:22:59Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m sure the child will congratulate her someday for putting herself first and having a good time. That is, if it ever manages to be born. Right, because she totally expected to be fucking MACED AND TRAMPLED while dancing. I know that’s one of the things I account for when I go downtown to take in a revue at Chez Mado, right up there with alien invasion and the Rapture. :wally ---
**Author:** ![Longmos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@Longmos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Longmos)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/17 "2003-02-17T16:30:46Z")
This sounds like one of those stories out of the Third World. You know: Overloaded bus crash, hotel collapse, soccer riot, nightclub fire. Oh wait, it _was_ the South Side of Chicago…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/18 "2003-02-17T16:34:02Z")
**Longmos** , what’s your problem?? Really - I would like to know. 21 people are dead. Why do you feel a need to bait people here? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/19 "2003-02-17T16:37:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Longmos \* > \*\*I’m sure the child will congratulate her someday for putting herself first and having a good time. That is, if it ever manages to be born. \*\* Funny, back in the day, lots of women drank (and smoked :eek: ) while pregnant. You’re right, though, because mankind died out as a species back then, didn’t it? Oh, just saw his/her other reply in preview. DNFTT. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616/20 "2003-02-17T16:40:34Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m sure the child will congratulate her someday for putting herself first and having a good time. That is, if it ever manages to be born. Oh for fuck sake. I suppose you’ll just put pregnant women in plastic bubbles and away from any possible source of distress. Look, life dosent work out like that. And an occasional drink and night out sure isn’t going to harm the child. Everything in moderation. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-news-from-nightclub-in-chicagp/155616.md?page=2)