# "Bad" (or badly reviewed) movies that you love **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788 "2010-12-11T15:56:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/121 "2011-01-04T06:56:03Z")
**Shakes the Clown** has always been a favorite of mine. It really is the Citizen Kane of alcoholic clown movies, and in all seriousness, I think Bobcat Goldthwaite will be remembered by future generations as a great filmmaker. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/122 "2011-01-04T07:17:44Z")
Dunno how well received it was, but “Mr. Mom” was always a favorite of mine. Taught me what NOT to do at the supermarket! ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/123 "2011-01-04T07:41:55Z")
For some reason, I really like **Black Knight** and for awhile when it was on cable, I would catch in and watch it. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/124 "2011-01-04T08:50:53Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Agreed. One of John Hughes’ overlooked gems (he wrote the screenplay). > [@fuzzypickles](#): > > Holy crap, _Dutch_ is one of my favorite movies! I’m glad to finally meet the other person who actually watched it. 🆒 ::teary sniff:: My people! ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/125 "2011-01-04T09:14:05Z")
> [@sco3tt](#): > > **Shakes the Clown** has always been a favorite of mine. It really is the Citizen Kane of alcoholic clown movies, and in all seriousness, I think Bobcat Goldthwaite will be remembered by future generations as a great filmmaker. I came on to mention this, with Florence Henderson in her most depraved role ever! I also liked **Stuart Saves His Family** ; I can see how Stuart Smalley may have worn out his welcome with a sizable chunk of the movie-going population, but what a great cast! Vincent D’Onofrio and Laura San Giacamo alone…! Hated **Joe Vs. the Volcano,** though. The trope of having Meg Ryan as every woman Joe ever met was too treacly by half, and the whole film reminded me of a really bad issue of _Justice League International_, with the Bwa-ha-ha and Kooey Kooey Kooey. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/126 "2011-01-04T10:16:50Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Hated **Joe Vs. the Volcano,** I’m not arguing that with you. I know he can get the job. But can he do the job? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/127 "2011-01-04T12:54:50Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I’m sorry, I think you meant to say “UHF is a great movie spoiled only by the greatness of Weird Al and the greatness of Spatula World and more greatness stacked upon the greatness that is Michael Richards. And his mop.” This^^. I seem to recall that the trailers for it played up the gross slapstick elements which comprised a much smaller portion of the actual movie than you think, which may have been partly responsible for its lack of success (well, that and going up against Jurassic Park IIRC). _Undercover Blues_ is my favorite guilty pleasure - not only do Dennis Quaid and Kathleen Turner genuinely appear to be having fun throughout but it features my two favorite serious character actors, Stanely Tucci and Fiona Shaw, in outrageously over-the-top performances. How can you not enjoy this film? I really like _Starship Troopers_ and don’t understand all the hate for it, but I suspect this has to do with never reading the book. Likewise I have to grudgingly admit liking _Constantine_ despite it starring Keanu Reeves and despite being a huge fan of the comic; once I accepted that it was not the comic character it was much easier to enjoy. _Hudson Hawk_, yes. _The Fifth Element_, yes. _Death to Smoochy_, yes (although it needs less Robin Williams). But I will never like **Joe Vs The Volcano**. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/128 "2011-01-04T19:45:00Z")
_The Villain_, A.K.A. _Cactus Jack_: [link.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080097/) This just seems like a great time to see it again (for the first time in 30 years!), now that Kirk Douglas (“the villain”, A.K.A. “Cactus Jack”) is now just foiling people’s dead-pool bets, Arnold Schwarzenegger (“Handsome Stranger”) just yesterday vacated the office of Governor of California, and god knows what’s up with Ann-Margret (“Charming Jones”). And Paul Lynde (“Nervous Elk”) was funnier than half the so-called comedians out there today. Yes, this movie was supremely silly, but it was _supposed_ to be… the whole thing was basically a live-action version of the classic Warner Bros. Wile E. Coyote/Roadrunner cartoons. And when I saw it as a kid, it was _awesome_ – no more so than in its nonformulaic ending: Charming Jones, given the choice between being with the villainous Cactus Jack, who flat-out says his intention is to “ravish” her, and the decent, honest, seemingly neutered Handsome Stranger, chooses… the villain! It’s out on DVD, but I’ve never seen the DVD for sale. [sniff] ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/129 "2011-01-04T21:45:27Z")
> [@The\_Scrivener](#): > > _The Villain_… It’s out on DVD, but I’ve never seen the DVD for sale. [sniff] [It’s in stock at Amazon.](http://www.amazon.com/Villain-Kirk-Douglas/dp/B000063INF/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294177361&sr=8-1)🙂 I loved this movie as a kid. ---
**Author:** ![FrigidLizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@FrigidLizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrigidLizard)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/130 "2011-01-04T22:43:48Z")
I also love Jersey Girl, it really does a good job of being both funny and touching. I _ **love** _ Willow. Like, an unhealthy amount. Even though it’s hugely derivative, I liked the animated Transformers movie. I liked Land of the Lost. You have to lower your expectations, just take it as it is, a goofy Will Ferrel movie, and the laughter will come. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/131 "2011-01-04T22:48:57Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Pitch Black did not receive very positive review, nor did its sequel, but I love both of them and consider them nearly perfect. > > I also adored both Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, even considering the middle one the best one. > > Heck, my wife and I like Daredevil with Ben Affleck. I immediately thought of Pitch Black as well. Was not expecting much when I watched it, but it turned out to be really good. I was expecting dumb sci-fi action but found a good story, characters with depth, and good acting. ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/132 "2011-01-04T22:51:30Z")
One more vote for _Hudson Hawk_. (Villain accidentally decapitates himself) He won’t be attending that hat convention in July! ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/133 "2011-01-05T05:48:06Z")
It’s been a few years since I’ve watched it but I remember liking the 1933 version of “Island of Lost Souls” with Charles Laughton and Bela Lugosi while the NY Times tv listing review dismissed it as “pretty moldy”. H G ells apparently hated the treatment of his story (Island of Dr Moreau). But Devo incorporated Lugois’s “are we not men” into one of their songs and albums. Lots of critics hated “1941” when it came out but I thought it as okay, if too long. Ken Russell’s version of The Who’s “Tommy”. “Starship Troopers” ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/134 "2011-01-05T22:11:19Z")
> [@FrigidLizard](#): > > I also love Jersey Girl, it really does a good job of being both funny and touching. > I _ **love** _ Willow. Like, an unhealthy amount. Yes. Yes. These. I paid actual money not only to see Willow, but to buy the VHS tape, video game, and – Lord help me – the novelization. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/135 "2011-01-05T23:03:41Z")
> [@I'm Not Dennis Bergkamp](#): > > [Pootie Tang](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258038/), which despite being written and directed by Louis C.K. and starring Chris Rock and Wanda Sykes, with a cameo by Bob Costas, currently has a Rotten Tomatoes approval rating of 27%. Louis C.K. wrote & directed? No wonder it’s brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/136 "2011-01-06T00:22:31Z")
So for whatever reason I have been really really busy over the past coupla weeks and haven’t been able to come over to the dope as often as usual, but what do I see but my thread on the top! I’m glad to see this is still going on. And it’s amazing the amount of movies that I’m reading here that I never thought were actually “bad”. I also see that my thread was the home for a first post!!! Time to cross that off the SDMB bucket list… ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/137 "2011-01-06T02:36:57Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > Yes. Yes. These. > > I paid actual money not only to see Willow, but to buy the VHS tape, video game, and – Lord help me – the novelization. Just the novelization, or the [written sequels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronicles_of_the_Shadow_War), too? ---
**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/138 "2011-01-06T17:54:31Z")
> [@FrigidLizard](#): > > I _ **love** _ Willow. Like, an unhealthy amount. You and that stupid rat dream. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/139 "2011-01-06T21:28:30Z")
Oscar, the comedy with Sylvester Stallone. Shut UP, it is TOO funny. Possibly not good, but awesome. “It’s like disarming Germany!” “This is your third fiance today and it ain’t even lunch yet!” “You had a child with the new maid?” And Ghost Ship. It’s a horrible movie. I love it. I love the twist, I love the explanation, I can even sit through the gore. Oh, and Undercover Blues is a **Ninja** family favorite. “SI! ES MUERTE! MUERTE! DEATH!” “Uh huh. All right. _Death_.” “It was a fair fight. Two of them, two of us.” ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788/140 "2011-01-07T07:10:28Z")
_War of the Worlds_. Yes, the Tom Cruise version. _The Day After Tomorrow_. I have seen this movie at least 8 times. Also loved _Independence Day_, which has already been mentioned. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-or-badly-reviewed-movies-that-you-love/563788.md?page=8)